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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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OK. I will give you the short story. I have worked at my firm for the last 2 years and have a fantastic work record. I started having marital issues and me and my wife split back on September last year. I got a hell of a lot of grief and threats from her family but it all died down eventually.

I met someone else and moved in with her in December (stupid I know, but love is blind). She turned out to be a complete psycho and we split up a couple of weeks ago. I was upset and had 3 days off work which was recorded as “Unauthorised Absence” and I was given a Stage 1 written warning.

My ex called me and begged me to see her on Monday and she said she couldn’t be with me as she couldn’t have children and it broke her heart every time mine came to stay (I accepted this even though we had a pregnancy scare in January, wasn’t worth arguing over, I knew it was rubbish) I found out on Wednesday night that she was actually cheating on me for a week before we split, obviously not happy I texted her and told her I knew, lots was said, she eventually admitted it and I felt better.

I came to work on Thursday morning and felt good, until my work phone rang. My ex girlfriend had been in touch with my ex wifes Aunty some how (and she takes it upon herself to get into everyones business) and told her I constantly cheated on my wife (I didn’t) and how I owed her thousands of pounds and all sorts of crap. Bottom line is she phoned me at work, gave me serious grief and threats and I snapped, at lunch I left work with the intention of selling everything and catching a plan the next day to get away from it all as it was no one elses business. Work kept phoning and texting as they were worried and I didn’t answer as I wasn’t in a great state of mind.

I came to my senses when I realised I wouldn’t see my kids again and went back to my mum and dads house (they live in France). I spoke to work and my Manager told me to come in on Friday (today) but there will be repercussions of another Unauthorised Absence, that will be a level two warning at least.

Turns out that in our Gross Misconduct policy, unauthorised absence is covered. Can they get me for this and skip the other warning stages? My state of mind was crap, I have been having loads of personal problems recently (which they know about) and have a lot on my plate. Do I have mitigating circumstances as I was being threatened and felt I had no other option? If I lose this job, over the last 6 months I will have lost absolutely everything in my life.

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[ but there will be repercussions of another Unauthorised Absence, that will be a level two warning at least. [/font]

Turns out that in our Gross Misconduct policy, unauthorised absence is covered. Can they get me for this and skip the other warning stages?

 

Hi, sorry to hear about that. Divorce is a horrible time in your life - try and be strong.

 

As regards work, it is likely that this will indeed lead to, '...a level two warning ...' i.e. a written warning.

 

You have 2 years service, and thus any dismissal will have to pass the 'overall test of fairness'.

 

For example, I could put in my employee handbook that theft = GM and this includes disposable biro pens.

 

Now if I were dismissed from my job, because I took a 10p biro pen home (by mistake), would this merit a fair dismissal?

 

As in your example the rule is classed as GM in the handbook, but as I often tell client's, the handbook is not the ultimate arbiter of fairness, the Tribunal is.

 

I doubt this would stand up as fair, and I doubt you will be dismissed, for a second absence. Remember if you were dismissed for GM you would lose the right to notice pay, contractual holiday etc.

 

My advice would be go in work, apologise, ensure you follow absence reporting procedures wherever possible, explain the background, and re-iterate that you will endeavour to attend work regularly going forward.

 

Please come back if you are dismissed for this.

 

Che

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If you are still working then it is unlikely a gross misconduct allegation would stick.

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If you are still working then it is unlikely a gross misconduct allegation would stick.

 

Have to agree as GM is conduct that 'shatters the contract', it undermines your employer's GM argument if they let you work for a week after the incident.

 

Good luck on Friday

 

Che

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