Courtleigh,Baltic Pine,Conservatory Basics CCJ.

[overdone]

In Jan 2006 Baltic Pine got a c.c.j against me and I was instructed by the court all I could pay was £1.00 a month (which was what I was paying in DMP anyway)

I carried on paying the CCJ but some time later was informed that Conservatory Basics had taken over Baltic Pine and could I make out my £1.00 postal order to them instead, which I did religiously. A couple of months ago, the post office returned my letter and postal order with some note to the affect not known at this address. May have been a Post Office mistake though. I stopped sending the one pound in case they had gone bankrupt or something. My query is this, can I insist on any documentation that Conservatory Basics can collect on Baltic Pine CCJ debts?

 

I received this letter today.

 

Courtleigh Debt Collection services.

 

Dear Overdone,

 

Re: Monthly County Court Judgement Payment to Baltic Pine

Conservatories LTD.

 

This is to advise you that your debt has now been passed to Courtleigh Debt Collection Services for collection.

 

It appears that Conservatory Basics Ltd have not received your £1.00 monthly payments for January and February and your payment for March will become due shortly, can I therefore ask that you forward these payments as soon as possible.

 

Should you wish to discuss the contents of this letter, please call xxxxx xxxxxx office hours are as follows:

 

Monday to Thursday 9.am - 8.am Friday 9am - 5.30pm Saturday 10am-1pm

 

Yours sincerely

 

J Dorrian

C D C Services

Edited March 15, 2009 by overdone
typo

[overdone]

In view of no reply from anyone I sent them a three pound P.O for 3 months payments and will send more.

[Helford]

Overdone,

 

Baltic Pine Conservatories Ltd. went bust in Autumn 2006 owing staff and suppliers monies. The whole factory in Penzance was sold off at auction!

 

See this snippet from a local MP:-

 

Baltic Pine Closure - Jobs Blow (Julia Goldsworthy )

 

CONSERVATORY BASICS LIMITED are based in an OFFICE block (I know it well) at Top Floor Courtleigh House, 74-75 Lemon Street, TRURO TR1 2PN.

 

Note that building name 'Courtleigh! Was it not Courtleigh Debt Collection Services who say you need to pay Conservatory Basics limited.

 

I would check out the names of Directors of Baltic Pine, Conservatory Basics and Courtleigh Debt Collection Services on the Companies House WebCheck service. Also worth finding out from the Receivers of Baltic Pine (GRANT THORNTON UK LLP, 11-13 PENHILL ROAD, CARDIFF CF11 9UP) as to what is happening. I always thought that any debts to a Limited Company had to be paid to the Administartors/Official Receivers?????

 

The Director of Baltic Pine sold out one of his finance companies to GE Money a few years back, say no more!

 

See this Wiki page that I just found:-

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Murtagh

Edited May 10, 2009 by Helford
I always thought... note added

[overdone]

I found one of the letters, the first by all accounts.

 

9 May 2007

 

Baltic Conservatories Ltd (in administration)

 

You entered into a contract dated 4 April 2003 with Baltic Conservatories for the supply (and Installation) of a timber conservatory. As you will be aware Baltic Conservatories went into administration on 4th October 2006 and is no longer trading.

 

Conservatory Basics LTD has entered in to a contract with Grant Thornton who are dealing with the administration of Baltic Conservatories Ltd, to recover monies outstanding. To date this has to be repaid in full.

 

Bal outstanding £876

 

Please forward payment within the next 7 days to clear the outstanding balance.

 

All payments are to be made payable to "Conservatory Basics Ltd Collections" and send to the address below.

 

Please be advised that failure to make payment will result in further legal action, which will incur further costs to you.

If you would like to discuss your account please contact me at your earliest convenience.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Miss C Mason

Litigation Officer

[Helford]

Who sent this letter, Grant Thornton or the Court?

 

H

[overdone]

Who sent this letter, Grant Thornton or the Court?

 

H

neither of them and I just noticed the address at the bottom of the letter,

Conservatory Basics Ltd

Brinkworth House

Swindon

Wiltshire

SN15 5DF

 

and also just noticed, damn cheek, only a mobile phone number +44 (0)7725 308170

[overdone]

Found more recent letter too.

 

Courtleigh

Debt Collection Services.

 

13 March 2009

 

Dear Overdone,

 

Re: Monthly County Court Judgement Payment to Baltic Pine Conservatories Ltd

 

This is to advise you that your debt has now been passed to Courtleigh Debt Collection Services for collection.

 

It appears that Conservatory Basics Ltd have not received your £1.00 monthly payments for January and February and your payment for March will become due shortly,can I therefore ask that you forward these payments as soon as possible.

 

Should you wish to discuss the contents of this letter, please call 01872 227041, office hours are as follows:

 

Yours sincerely

 

J Dorrian

Courtleigh Debt Collection Services

 

3rd floor, Courtleigh House, 74 75 Lemon Street, Truro, Cornwall.

[I've got no money]

I am confused - I would do a google search for Grant Thornton and contact their main switchboard or write to them at their head office and ask them to confirm that they are administrators for Baltic Conservatories and ask them to tell you what has happened to the Company.

 

I would then at the same time write to Courtleigh and ask them to explain on what basis they assert that Conservatory Basics has a right to collect a judgment in respect of Baltic conservatories

[overdone]

12 May 2009

 

Courtleigh Debt Collection Services,

3rd Floor,

Courtleigh House,

74-75 Lemon Street,

Truro,

Cornwall,

TR1 2PN

 

Dear Sirs,

 

Claim No: C.C.J xxxxxxxxxxx

 

In a letter from Conservatory Basics Ltd, dated 9 May 2007 it is asserted Conservatory Basics Ltd entered into a contract with Grant Thornton who are dealing with the administration of Baltic Conservatories Ltd.

 

I have not been authorised by Grant Thornton to pay you monies owing to Basic Conservatories Ltd and have only your word for it.

 

On what basis do you assert that Conservatory Basics Ltd, has a right to collect a judgement in respect of Baltic Conservatories Ltd?

 

Please note my new address to which I await your early reply.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

Overdone

[toddle2u]

It would seem that Conservatory Bascs Ltd bought the debt book of Baltic Conservatories off Grant Thornton which is fairly common practice in these situtaions. You need to get confirmation from Grant Thornton of this though

[I've got no money]

If I were you I would phone Grant Thornton

[overdone]

another thing came to light. On inspecting my credit files I found the ccj is listed. There is no account history and no default recorded. Insufficient default practice is a good reason to have a ccj set aside but how do I prove there was no Default Notice issued?