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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I don’t know if any one has the answer to this. I have a loan with RBS but have just

 

started a claim for my bank charges. In the event that this claim is in my favour would I be

 

paid this money or it would go straight towards my loan even though they are 2 different

 

account numbers putting in mind that the account I am claiming against is not active

 

anymore. The account is not close but I don’t have access to it anymore. it's been lock by the bank Please advice

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Your loan has a completely separate agreement and won't be affected by your claim.

 

Unless you are in arrears with the loan, then there is no reason that the bank can offset the settlement against the loan.

 

Why is the bank account frozen? Is it overdrawn? If so, then any settlement would probably be offset against this.

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Thanks for the swift response

I don’t know if I would say it’s in arrears or not but the situation was, I couldn’t meet up

with the actually agreed monthly payments. So I wrote them a letter through a third party

and got a smaller payment agreement with the bank. The new arrangement is up to date

and still on going as we speak.

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The account was not overdrawn it was just frozen because I couldnt keep up with the loan payment and I arranged for reduced payment it was then passed to their debt management department in somewhere in Birmingham or Telford.

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Hi everyone this my situation is a very awkward, have serched all the forum without any luck with any answer and I had to PM Bankfodder, then decide to start a thread on it.

 

Hi ,

 

Sorry If this thread is meant to be somewhere else on the forum..

First of all I will like to thank you for this site and helping people without courage to fight their bank against unfair bank charges.

Just wondering if you could advise me on this, I had a current account with Royal bank of Scotland, took out a £19,000 (+ £5000 PPI) loan to consolidate my debt. The loan account is a different reference. Towards the end of 2004 I lost my job and couldn’t keep up with the loan payments. I turned to one of the debt management company who manage to negotiate for me to freeze the interest and reduce monthly payment £86 a month, have never missed any payment since.

About 6weeks ago I wrote to Royal Bank (Debt management in Telford since my account is handle by that department now) to have the PPI on my loan taken off, to my surprise I got a call from a guy advising me they’ve agree to take the PPI off with has reduced my Loan by almost 5k.

Then I decide to try and see if I could claim bank charges on my current account. Request for my statement calculate all the charge and it came to a total of £1996.52. Wrote to Royal Bank in Telford again and got a letter from them saying my complaint to refund charges has been passed to customer relation as the request for bank charges refunds are dealt with by that department. The customer relation has written to me since then with the usually terms and condition crap that they would not be refunding the charges. They’ve also refuse to refund me with the second request (letter before Court action).

 

My next move now is money claim. But what I would like to know is in the light that I get a refund back are they going to pay me this money or put it towards my outstanding loan? I personally would have thought they should as this charges was taken illegally and it was when my account were still up and running and in good shape.

 

Please kindly advice me on this and if there is any template letter or legal argument I could slam the bank with, in the event that they want to pay the charges into my Loan :?

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The claim is got nothing to do with my DMP. The refund I got back on the PPI I did on my own initiative. The DMP just update their own record with the letter RBS sent to me informing me about the PPI refund.

 

The DMP wouldnt have known that I got a refund back for the PPI if I didnt inform them.

Am not really sure if I can base the refund on my own terms .:?

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This is just my opinion

 

The banks agreed to halt interest on your loan to benefit you. They agreed to the DMP. Now, for me, I cant see the arguement against the bank completely offsetting the amount from your loan.

 

Could the bank, upon paying you this money and you keeping it, not decide to right to the Debt Management people and say, WOW hang on, we have just hgiven him £XX.XX and he hasnt paid us back, thats not the spirit of this agreement, we want our money now and we will add interest.

 

Like I said, just my view

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