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      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

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depends who owns the debt - if its eversehds then you owe halifax £0

Halifax Credit Card - £408.16 - Settled in FULL 26/6/06

Halifax Loans - £397.97 - Settled in FULL 25/8/06

GE Money Topman £216.75 - SETTLED IN FULL

Marbles LBA - £475.00 - £250 Offered :rolleyes:

Halifax Current Account LBA - SETTLED IN FULL

Yorkshire Bank Current Accounts £2271.77 - Issued 30/6/06 - Default Judgement Issued - Warrant of Execution Requested

Capital One - LBA - £88 Knocked of Balance

Egg PPI - LBA

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Hi and welcome. i think they may use it to reduce your account with evershed? sorry never heard of them!!! i dont see why they should tho, as you are now dealing with evershed. you only claim any interest they've charged you for uod's at this time. you then charge the 8% when you start court proceedings ok?:)

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I am not a legal buff but this is the way I see it. It is Halifax that made the charges against your account therefore your claim is against Halifax and when they settle it should be with you and then you settle with Eversheds.

17/5/06 - Halifax -preliminary letter sent

31/5/06 - Halifax - LBA sent

15/6/06 - claim filed

6/7/06 - SETTLED IN FULL £3,306 + £859.95 interest

13/7/06 - Abbey Credit Card - Data Protection Act letter

10/8/06 - Abbey CC Rec £150 gwj £192 oust.

13/8/06 - Abbey CC - prelim letter sent

28/8/06 - Abbey CC - LBA

18/9/06 - Abbey CC - Settled in full - £200 paid

 

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Wow slow down ......I think you are jumping the gun here ......firstly I think you need to read a few threads and the FAQs.

 

HAve you asked for the statements with the Data Protection Act template letter and enclosed the £10 fee? if not the it will be very unlikely you will get them.

 

when you get your statements and have added them up you then send a letter (in the template library) asking for them to refund your charges ........then if they do not comply you send the letter before action

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Mechs and Mother (deceased) V Halifax - N1 form filed at Court 9 Aug 06

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I phoned up asking for a copy of all my statements. The lady did not ask for a fee, but assured me I would receive my copy within 7-10 days.

 

I am preparing the letter now, so I can be ready for the totting-up. :)

 

this one here I hope and not the letter before actiion one

 

preliminary approach letter

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Best of luck getting your statements. Halifax promised them to me over the phone and surprise surprise they never came.

 

better to send a DPA request, they cannot squirm out of it then mate.

Halifax - £2500

Legal & Trade - Webt to courtfor Breach CCA, Complained to OFT they ruled in my favour, So did court, 2k written off.

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Best of luck getting your statements. Halifax promised them to me over the phone and surprise surprise they never came.

 

better to send a Data Protection Act request, they cannot squirm out of it then mate.

 

Thats what I have been trying to get across, short cuts sometimes end up the long way around

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Indeed - let's just clarify a couple of points here.

 

Halifax were responsible for charging you, so they are the one who now need to repay you. Eversheds are simply handling the debt.

 

If any charges have been imposed by Eversheds, for whatever reason, then you must deal with that separately.

 

Eversheds / Blair Oliver Scott - they're all the same really, just Halifax in disguise.

 

Halifax are also the ones who supply you with info under the Data Protection Act. You should send in a written request, with the payment of £10 - forget all about phone calls with lovely jubly members of staff who have no real authority anyway. Avoid phone calls - letters are king in this business.

 

If they choose to only charge you £5 or nothing at all, then fine, but if you don't give them the option it may come back to haunt you.

 

From this point onwards, start to view them as a defendant in a court case, since it's likely you'll have to submit a claim, you might as well get used to it now. If you believe for one moment that they have your best interests at heart, then you may be in for a big surprise.

 

Data Protection Act letter, asap. Then let's see where we are with charges and make an informed decision from there (and it would be a Prelim letter, not LBA, as your next step).

 

Are you in England or Scotland?

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First of all, Halifax own your debt unless they have written to you to say it has been assigned to another company. The only Eversheds of which I am aware is a large firm of Solicitors. My guess is that Halifax have instruicted them to act as debt collectors.

 

My advice would be to continue to write to the Halifax and they can pass it on to their advisers if they so desire. Use recorded delivery with all important correspondence because they can and will deny receipt.

 

Some of your questions suggest you have not read the FAQ's thoroughly - and that is the key source info of this site - I hope the Mods do not mind me saying that!

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...Use recorded delivery with all important correspondence because they can and will deny receipt...

 

You don't need to prove receipt, and recorded delivery will often go unsigned for anyway, since the postie doesn't have time to stand around waiting for 10's of letters to be signed for.

 

This can have the effect of making the sender think it went missing in action.

 

The courts will deem a letter to have been delivered 2 working days after postage - so a FREE certificate of postage is the best option.

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...Perhaps an FAQ named something like "want to know how to claim your debt - click here" sticky would be more suitable. Within it, have say steps 1-5 - step 1) Click here, do so-and-so, etc....

 

You mean something like this?

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/243-step-step-instructions.html

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See post 13 above.

 

Recorded delivery is almost useless in my opinion.

 

You don't need proof of delivery, only proof of postage - which is also supplied by the slip you receive from recorded delivery. The court will deem it delivered 2 working days after postage so don't worry about the website not being updated.

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Just to echo what Jonni has said, we sent two letters a couple of weeks back - one was a prelim and the other was the DPA SAR.

 

Both (as far as Royal Mail tracking is concerned) were never delivered. Despite that we still got a response to the prelim (usual 10% offer) but are still waiting on the DPA request (it's only been just over 2 weeks so it's in keeping with the Halifax's heel dragging techniques).

 

Question is, for the timetable we're working on and the fact that the Halifax put an 8 week period on the acceptance of their partial offers would they still be able to argue they hadn't received the LBA we're sending and believed we were still considering their offer?

Hubbys Account - SETTLED IN FULL

20th May - DPA SAR sent. Statements received 15th June - £1957.29 owed!

24th June - Prelim Letter sent. 10% offer received on 4th July. Indicated it could be accepted as partial settlement towards the full amount.

12th July - LBA sent. 27th July 25% (ish) offer received.

27th July - Moneyclaim submitted. Acknowledged with intent to defend 31st July.

3rd August - £2,365.80 paid in full.

 

Joint Account

24th June - DPA SAR sent.

 

My Account

3rd August - DPA SAR sent.

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... would they still be able to argue they hadn't received the LBA we're sending and believed we were still considering their offer?

 

Not in court, no :D

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continue as normal ;)

Halifax Credit Card - £408.16 - Settled in FULL 26/6/06

Halifax Loans - £397.97 - Settled in FULL 25/8/06

GE Money Topman £216.75 - SETTLED IN FULL

Marbles LBA - £475.00 - £250 Offered :rolleyes:

Halifax Current Account LBA - SETTLED IN FULL

Yorkshire Bank Current Accounts £2271.77 - Issued 30/6/06 - Default Judgement Issued - Warrant of Execution Requested

Capital One - LBA - £88 Knocked of Balance

Egg PPI - LBA

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If the timescale for response to the LBA is up - then it's time for court.

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