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    • Please accept my apologies for the delayed update, but i have been trawling through emails for supporting evidence, you see we are in the consultation phase and there will be three meetings during the process. So as i have said  my role is at risk due to the scoring and mine being low. As explained i never received my report as my line manager left during December and i was on leave. So i was not afforded any meeting, i received no feedback at all, so how am i meant to know any areas to improve or to attain a higher grade. So with this in mind i gathered my supporting evidence, i found the email from my then line manager and the objectives that he set out and we agreed.   I then supplied 20 emails that  showed that not only did i reach the targets, i smashed them, highlighting areas that i had saved the company a considerable amount of money, idented issues  implemented process and solutions with ongoing support. All emails are verified and prove that i should have received the highest possible grade going by their criteria. I also included the email from HR when i challenged  the score and they replied with " the outgoing manager supplied thorough feedback to the incoming interim manager who should have provided this (this was never received, and report i received was blank with just a score. Highlighted was the email from HR stating " a two is not a concerning grade"  well clearly it is as less than a month later it is what was used to decide i was at risk. I have supplied this information to the line manager and the external HR rep that was on the call as i have 48 hours to supply this. Had i had a proper and fair review like everyone else had then i would have been able to provide this evidence when he issued the score, he could not argue with the sheer volume of evidence that i had. This proves what was said to me when i took this position, " there was some politics in me getting the role, their line manager had promised the role to one of his guys, they cant really do anything but watch your back" He should not have promised this anyway as two interviews were required in the process *which i sat) so i earned the right to the role. This was because the three of them knew there was a lot that would be uncovered and they wanted it covering, i started to see this after two weeks, had i not said anything then it would have looked as though i was incompetent or stupid. I did try to work with them on this to remedy but sadly they went the other rout instead.    
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    • Dear Stu. I have been very annoyed that they put this fee on my account right now, as you said the court might rule that i have to pay it further on. This sounds like a dodgy practice. Below is what the account manager sent to me when i asked her why this was getting added to my account right now. Is this legal what they are doing i.e. pre-empting the judges decision it seems. 'Thank you for the email.  The court fees have been added to your account as you have not vacated the property. If the court decide that the landlord is not able to recoup the costs, we would remove the charge from your account.  At present, the court costs have not been deducted from the payment you made towards the rent.'
    • Yay!! Plan to submit tomorrow. Thanks for all the support. I'm so out of my comfort zone. Will keep thread updated and continue reading. Just want them gone!   
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Could someone advice please. My son is in final year of Uni and is in rented accomodation in Lancaster. He moved to this address with his mates in September this year. Due to the incompetence of LCC his loan was delayed and we have been chasing it since that time. He told his landlords what was happening but it took ages because of the backlog.


However, his landlords come into the property without notice, let themselves in (no emergencies!) and because of the time lap with the loan have started threatening my son. Two weeks ago my son was on the phone to the student phone company again and the husband (landlord) walked into the house, let himself in. He threatened my son who handed him the phone and said speak to them yourselves and you will see I am not lying. He refused but unknown to him the call was recorded. The student loan company finally released the loan and told my son it would be in his bank on Monday 3 December, which it was.


It gets better ........... On Monday 3 December at 10 am, my son was awoken whilst in his bed ...... by his landlady!!!!!! (the wife), not only had she gone into my son's bedroom but also one of the other student's who was also in bed. If that wasn't bad enough she then seated herself on a chair and whilst talking to my shocked son in his bed she proceeded to read letters and paperwork he had on his desk!!


Needless to say when my son told me I hit the roof and wanted their address, phone number etc. My son is no push over but doesn't want me doing anything (he knows my temper!) as he is scared of them trying to evict them or something if he retaliates.


These people are bang out of order and I would appreciate some advice, my son and his mates keep a decent house, they party like other students but their house is kept in good order and kept clean. Can I do anything which will not jeopardise him and his mates but also make it 100% clear to these landlords that they cannot act in this way.


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Hi Mollie


I think this would be best in the tenants/landlords section of CAG.


So I've asked that it be moved in order that you get more help.



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OMG!!! That is terrible how dare they let themselves into your son's bedroom!!!!! that is shocking!!


Sorry I can't offer any advice but make sure you don't let them get away with it.


Good luck :)

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MollieUK,in reply to your post and in my view:


1.The landlord and landlady are clearly trespassers and in breach of the covenant of quite enjoyment i.e. your son should be allowed to enjoy the occupation of the premises without interference.


2.If this scenario repeated itself your son should just ask the landlord/landlady to politely leave and hopefully he/she/both respond.


3.If your son is threatened with violence he should contact the police.


4.Your son could also get the local authority private tenants officer involved who would send the landlord and landlady a letter regarding this unacceptable behaviour.By the way,this service is totally free.Also,it is the local authority that gets involved with prosecuting landlords and not the police.Police will only get involved if there is violence or breach of the peace.


By the way,I have had a similar experience when I was a tenant and ordered the landlord leave.It did not make things worse but woke him up and made him respect me.


Anyway,I hope this helps.

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I really appreciate all the replies but there is one other thing I forgot to mention.


I believe that in April this year the law changed regarding Tenancy Deposits being held in a secure account and other students have received letters stating this but no letters have been received by my son or the other guys in this house, any advice on this also, really grateful for all your help.


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I would suggest reading this thread:




However to sum up, if a deposit has been taken for an Assured Shorthold Tenancy, and has not been placed in a TDS, your son is entitled to 3 TIMES the original deposit in compensation.

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I totally agree with N4Bs post above, but I feel he may have skimmed over a couple of things(sorry n4b!!). Could you answer the following questions for me please?


- How many people live in the property?

- Do the occupants have individual tenancy agreements, or one joint tenancy?

- How much is the rent per month per person?

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Oh and is the property let via a letting agents or directly with the landlord?

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