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    • I found that the parkin attended has a car with CCTV camera on it, however as I stated earlier, it seems that he did not take video of my car otherwise they would have stated so in the SAR. parking car .pdf
    • The rules state that "approved devices may only be used in limited circumstances"  I was not a threat. I was not present. I did not drive away. I think he has not fulfilled the necessary requirements justifying issuing me a PCN by post therefore the PCN was issued incorrectly and not valid.  What are your thoughts?  
    • I have also found this:  D.2 Service of a PCN by post: 54) There are some circumstances in which a PCN (under Regulation 10) may be served by post: 1) where the contravention has been detected on the basis of evidence from an approved device (approved devices may only be used in limited circumstances) 2) if the CEO has been prevented, for example by force, threats of force, obstruction or violence, from serving the PCN either by affixing it to the vehicle or by giving it to the person who appears to be in charge of that vehicle 3) if the CEO had started to issue the PCN but did not have enough time to finish or serve it before the vehicle was driven away and would otherwise have to write off or cancel the PCN 55) In any of these circumstances a PCN is served by post to the owner and also acts as the NtO. The Secretary of State recommends that postal PCNs should be sent within 14 days of the contravention. Legislation states that postal PCNs must be sent within 28 days, unless otherwise stated in the Regulations. This from London Councils Code of Practice on Civil Parking Enforcement.  The question is what is an approved device? Certainly, he had the opportunity to place the ticket on my car and I didn't drive away.  I looked further and it seems that an approved device is a CCTV camera - It seems that the photos taken were not actual film but images and it is not clear if they are taken from a video or are stills. I'm guessing if it was moving images then the SAR would have stated this.    From the Borough of Hounslow website: "There are two types of PCN issued under the Traffic Management Act 2004, which governs parking contraventions. The first is served on-street by a Civil Enforcement Officer, who will observe a vehicle and collect evidence before serving the PCN either by placing it in a plastic wallet under the windscreen wiper, or by handing it to the driver. The second is a PCN served by post, based on CCTV footage taken by an approved device, which has been reviewed by a trained CCTV Operator."   From Legislation.gov.uk regarding approved devices: Approved Devices 4.  A device is an approved device for the purposes of these Regulations if it is of a type which has been certified by the Secretary of State as one which meets requirements specified in Schedule 1. SCHEDULE 1Specified requirements for approved devices 1.  The device must include a camera which is— (a)securely mounted on a vehicle, a building, a post or other structure, (b)mounted in such a position that vehicles in relation to which relevant road traffic contraventions are being committed can be surveyed by it, (c)connected by secure data links to a recording system, and (d)capable of producing in one or more pictures, a legible image or images of the vehicle in relation to which a relevant road traffic contravention was committed which show its registration mark and enough of its location to show the circumstances of the contravention. 2.  The device must include a recording system in which— (a)recordings are made automatically of the output from the camera or cameras surveying the vehicle and the place where a contravention is occurring, (b)there is used a secure and reliable recording method that records at a minimum rate of 5 frames per second, (c)each frame of all captured images is timed (in hours, minutes and seconds), dated and sequentially numbered automatically by means of a visual counter, and (d)where the device does not occupy a fixed location, it records the location from which it is being operated. 3.  The device and visual counter must— (a)be synchronised with a suitably independent national standard clock; and (b)be accurate within plus or minus 10 seconds over a 14-day period and re-synchronised to the suitably independent national standard clock at least once during that period. 4.  Where the device includes a facility to print a still image, that image when printed must be endorsed with the time and date when the frame was captured and its unique number. 5.  Where the device can record spoken words or other audio data simultaneously with visual images, the device must include a means of verifying that, in any recording produced by it, the sound track is correctly synchronised with the visual image.
    • Hearing took place today.  Case dismissed with costs awarded. Neither UKPC or a representative turned up.  Apparently they messaged the court on 7 May asking for their case to be considered on paper.  Never informed me, which was criticised by the judge as not following procedure.  I was really annoyed as I would have preferred for the case to be thrown out before the hearing, or at least face them in court and see them squeal.   They are just playing a numbers game and hope you blink 1st!   Ended up having to change my flight, but  the costs awarded softens the blow. Was asked to confirm it was my signature on both the witness statement and supplementary statement.  Wasn't asked to read them, said she could see my arguments made and the signs were insufficient and no contract formed. Took maybe 10 mins in total.  Judge did most of the talking and was best for me just to keep quiet or confirm any statements made. Happy to have won as a matter of principle and have costs awarded. Maybe not worth all the time and hassle for any newbies or the technologically challenged.  But if you are stubborn like me and willing to put in the time and effort, you can beat these vultures! I big shout out to everyone who helped on the thread with their advice and guidance, special mention to FTMDave, thank you sir!  Really appreciate everyone's efforts. All the best!
    • I plan to be honest to avoid any further trouble, tell them that the name should be changed to my official name
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Hi Anni

 

I would ring the court and see if the bank have acknowledged the claim.

 

My court have already told me that they are 5 working days behind with the paperwork on these claims, so I have to bear that in mind. According to the step-by-step instructions on here you can apply for 'Judgement in Default' if they are well over the 14 days - but reading through the threads, the banks are notorious for leaving it to the last minute to submit either the Ack or the Defence.

 

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Hi Anni

 

They may be like Barclays and leave it to the last minute. If you get nothing, I'd go back to the Step-by-Step guide and apply for Judgement.

 

I've just rec'd Cobbetts defence, which I've posted on my thread. Hopefully it is much the same as others and a Mod / someone who's also rec'd one will confirm this for me soon.

 

It's such a waiting game isn't it? We'll get there Anni, don't worry!

 

Kiff :)

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Hi anni - did you write to RBS at The Forthstone in the Gyle, Edinburgh, accepting part payment but asking for full repayment?

 

If you did, may I suggest you send them an email, quoting the reference on the offer letter from RBS, and asking how your claim is proceeding - send to Sandy Watt - [email protected] - this may just gee up your case a wee bit and push it up the queue a place or two - not guaranteed to do so but doesn't do any harm but be polite otherwise you may antagonise them and end up being ignored - bit like loud peeps demanding immediate service in a crowded bar, they usually only end up being served last - hopefully you should get an offer of your full claim of charges less any interest in a week or so.

 

That's just my experience.

“It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business.”

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Hi Kiff,

 

They have acknowledged & filed a defence. I have rec'd a allocation questionnaire & they are asking for another £100 to file it. Ive already paid £120 court fee. Is this right?

 

Ta Anni

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The Court asking for a further £100????

 

Are you on any form of Benefit or Tax Credit???

 

If so you can get the £100 waived if you get in touch with the court and fill in their "means-test/questionaire" ........if you go down personally they should give you an answer in about 10 minutes.

 

Hope this helps!!!

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Yea they have asked for another £100. No I'm not on benefits...Has this ever happened before? Is it right or have they just forgotten that I had already paid £120. The chq has been cashed so i know they have had it.

 

Ta Anni

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I paid £120 when first making my claim on line.

It was then transfered to my local County Court and they wanted a further £100. I went along and explained I received Family Tax Credit and filled in their form and got the £100 waived.

So the answer to your question is......"Yes it is right"

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Hi,

My claim was transferred to my local county court on 29 june, and im still waiting for a court date, i also paid £120 to mcol, but as yet I've not been asked for any more money, although we do get family tax credits,i would mention it to court if they ask for £100.

 

Im just not sure how long you wait for a court date, i've not recieved anything as yet.:confused:

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I need help...i've no idea what I'm supposed to do.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/11644-allocation-questionnaires-guide-completion.html

 

I've been looking how to fill out the AQ. I don't really understand the bit about section G. The Draft Directions and the bit about form of 'basic' disclosure.

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For Section G, I have put the following: -

 

I believe that this case will last no longer than 1 hour.

 

I would also respectfully ask that the court in this case, would order a basic disclosure. I understand that it is in the courts discretion to do so. I have attached a copy for your consideration as; I believe this would bring a rapid end to this litigation. I have been informed that this was devised by the Mercantile Courts for a similar case.

 

 

I'm not going to send these forms until I'm sure its right....I don't wanna look like abit of a prat.

 

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Anni

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annifrids104,

have you been on the consumer wiki.co.uk? they might have more info on that site, im having problems loggin in at the moment, so can't really say what its like, if you've not tried it it might be worth a look

 

good luck:)

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I'm dreading all this messing about, the banks should just pay up and be done with it, I'm not at your stage yet, and i'm finding it all to daunting as it is!

BUT I WON'T GIVE UP:mad:

 

It is scary...but if you know what ur doing is right then its alot easier. If I can help u at all let me know.

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I've had a look on consumer wiki (which by the way, I think is great) & i cant find anything that refers to what I need. The page regarding the filling out of the AQ hasn't been created yet.

 

For Section G, I have put the following: -

 

I believe that this case will last no longer than 1 hour.

 

I would also respectfully ask that the court in this case, would order a basic disclosure. I understand that it is in the courts discretion to do so. I have attached a copy for your consideration as; I believe this would bring a rapid end to this litigation. I have been informed that this was devised by the Mercantile Courts for a similar case.

 

 

I'm not going to send these forms until I'm sure its right....I don't wanna look like abit of a prat.

 

Ta

Anni

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