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    • Dear all, some information/advice required please.   I recently received a Further Steps Notice about a fine from 19/03/2018 which I knew nothing about. It was regarding a vehicle parked on the street without tax ( It was covered up and there because the only key to it had been stolen, I had been away from home  and I was having trouble getting a new key cut and coded to the vehicle )  I had not made a change of address to DVLA which would be why I knew nothing about the fine until receiving the final steps notice dated 29th April 2024 and giving me 10 working days to pay, although the notice did not arrive till May 9th 2024. I emailed the London Collection and Compliance Centre on May 13th 2024 asking for any information and they sent me a copy of the original fine. It is for  £390 back vehicle tax, £85 cost and £600 fine.  I now have received a Notice of Enforcement dated 7th June 2024 demanding payment ( total £1036)  or an arrangement by 6am 15th June ( tomorrow )  My question is is it tool late now to question the £600 fine part of the total amount to be paid ? That amount seems punitive.  Would making a statuary declaration regarding having no knowledge of the original court date apply ? And any other advice gratefully received. I am on Universal Credit and apparently they have already taken £177 via benefit reductions which I wasn’t aware of, but does make it seem strange that they were also unable to contact me.    Many thanks for any assistance 
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I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs.

I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them.

I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified.

That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person.

You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful.

You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.

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