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    • Morning dx and thank you for your message.   With regards to your comment about them not needing to produce the deed, the additional directions ordered by the judge included 'a copy of any assignment o the debt or agreement relied upon'  so that is why I thought that point was relevant?
    • Sorry for the long post but I don't want to miss out any relevant information: My wife bought a car from Trade Centre UK and have been having nothing but trouble with it. Unfortunately we paid of the finance used to buy the car as we weren't expecting this much trouble with the car as we we though we would have protection as buying from a dealer. We are wondering if we can still reject the vehicle since the finance plan has been paid off. Timeline is as follows: 13/12/2023 -15/12/2023 Bought car from Trade Centre UK for £10548 £2000 deposit paid on credit card on 13/12/2023 £8548 on finance from Moneybarn (arranged through Trade Centre UK). picked up car on 15/12/2023 Also bought lifetime warranty for £50/month 25/12/2023 Engine Management Light comes on. The AA called out and diagnosed the following error codes: P0133 - Lambda sensor (bank 1, sensor 1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Slow reaction. Error sporadic P0135 - Lambda sensor heat. circ.(bank1,sensor1) Oxygen Sensor. Error Message : Component defective Due to it being Christmas took a few days to get through to them but they booked me in for 28/12/2023 to run their own diagnostics. 28/12/2023 Took car in to Trade Centre so could check the car – They agreed it was the Oxygen Sensor and Booked me in for repair on 30/01/2024. I was told they had no earlier slots, and I would be fine to carry on driving car when I said I was afraid of problem worse. During diagnosing the problem, they reset the Engine Management Light. During drive home light comes back on. 29/12/2023 - 29/01/2024 I carry on driving the car but closer to the date, engine goes to reduced power every now and again – not being a mechanic I presumed that this was due to above fault. 20/01/2024 Not expecting any more problems paid off the finance on the car using personal loan from bank with lower interest rate. 30/01/2024 Trade Centre replace to O2 sensor (They also take it on a roughly 60mile road trip which seems a bit excessive to me – I can’t prove this as something prompted me take a picture of milage when I handed car in but I forgot take one on collection – only remembered next day.) 06/02/2024 Engine goes in reduced power mode again and engine management light comes on – Thinking the Trade centre’s 28 day warranty period was over I booked the car the into local garage for the next day to get problem fixed under the lifetime warranty package. Fault seems to clear after engine was switched off. 07/02/2024 In the Morning, I take it to local garage who say as the light gone off – the warranty company is unlikely to cover the cost of the repair or diagnostics and recommend I contact them when the light comes back on. In the evening the light comes back on and luckily I manage to get it back to the garage just before it shuts for the day. 08/02/2024 The Garage sends me a diagnostics video showing a lot error codes been picked up by their diagnostics machine including codes for Oxygen sensor and Nox Sensors, Accelerator pedal and several more. Video also shows EGR Hose not connected to the intake manifold properly, they believed this was confusing the onboard system as it is unlikely this many sensors would trigger at same the time but they couldn’t be certain until they repaired the hose. 13/02/2024 Finally get the car back as it took a while to get approval and payment for the repairs from the Warranty company. Garage told me to keep an eye the car as errors had cleared with the hose but couldn’t 100% certain that’s what caused the problem. 06/03/2024 Engine management light comes on again. Fed up I go into Trade Centre as I was just around the corner when it happened and asked them how to reject the car or have the problem fixed. They insist that as it’s over 28 days I need to get the car fixed under the warranty package I purchased and they could no longer fix the car as it was over 28 days. When I tried telling them it appeared to be the same or related problem they said they couldn’t help as I hadn’t contacted them earlier. I asked them if they were willing to connect the car to the diagnostics machine and tell me what the problem was, as a goodwill gesture, which he agreed to do and took the car to the back He came back around 30 minutes later and said they took a look at the sensor they replaced previously and there was nothing wrong with it and engine management light went off when they removed the sensor to check it. When I asked what the error code he couldn’t give me an exact fault but the said it one of the problems I told him earlier (Accelerator pedal). I have this visit audio recorded on my phone – I informed the reps I was recording several times. As the light wasn’t on, local garage couldn’t book me for a repair under warranty. 07/03/2024 Light came on so managed to book back into local garage for the 12/03/2024 Whilst waiting to take car into garage, I borrowed a OBD sensor and scanned for errors on the car. This showed the following errors: P11BE – Manufacturer specific code (Google showed this to be NOX sensor) P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow 12/03/2024 Took car to local garage and the confirmed the above errors. This leads me to believe that either Trade Centre UK reps lied and just reset the light or just didn’t check properly (Obviously I am unable to prove this) 22/03/2024 Finally got the car back as according to garage, the warranty company took a long to time to pay for the repairs 28/04/2024 Engine management Light has come back on. Using the borrowed OBD scanner I am getting the following codes: P0133 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Response too Slow P2138 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185): Implausible Correlation I have not yet booked into a garage as I wanted to see what my rights are in terms of rejecting the car as to me the faults seem related. I can’t keep using taxi or train to get to work every time the car goes into the garage as it is getting very expensive. Am I right in thinking that they have used up their chance to repair when they conducted the repair end of January or when they refused to repair it in February ? If I am still able to reject the vehicle could you point to any sample letters or emails I can use. Thankyou for your advice on my next steps.
    • Ok noted about the screenshot uploads. In terms of screwing up I had one previous ticket that defaulted and ended up in a CCJ from Southend airport because for some reason during COVID I didn't receive their claim form just a notice of default. This hospital ticket was the 2nd ticket that went to CCJ due to a lack of knowledge of the process. Maybe it's easier just to pay them in future I'm thinking though, I don't get them very often anyway
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

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Not sure I am in the right place to ask this, but here goes ..... 

 

My son has just vavcated a property being managed through a local estate agency.  He is currently in the process of accessing his deposit to be returned.  It is held in a system whereby they give him a code and then it is released back.

 

When the inspection to the property was done they issued a list of 'defects' they wished us to put right.  We have fully cleaned the house as requested.  We have re-painted as requested.

 

They then advised there were 2 stains to the bedroom carpet that had to be cleaned.  Also the living room carpet has to be cleaned.  All marks on walls had to be removed or repainted. We fully painted the house (bar the back bedroom which was used for storage only).  Two stains on the bedroom carpet cleaned.  Front room carpet cleaned. This was done last weekend and handed the keys back.  Inspection was due to be Tuesday, then moved to Wednesday.

 

Now they are saying that what we have done isnt to the expected standard.  They are now saying they are going to get quotes for decorators to come in and new carpets in the living room.  All this to be taken from the deposit.  As I am guarantor on the property, I have advised them I dont have an open cheque book for this.  It is currently in the Landlords hands.

 

They advise the landlord has given us ample time to rectify the situation.  We have only had the keys for 4 days out of the last fortnight.

 

Would anyone be able to advise where I go from here?  My son doesnt want me to do anything that will impede his deposit being returned.  But as I see it, there wont be any deposit left!

 

Thanks in advance guys.

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Thanks for all your points above. Given me a little bit of an insight into what I am up against. My son moved into the property in August 2016 so it’s been nearly 3 years. Passed several inspections with minor ‘issues’ that have been put right and re-inspected fine. 

I just feel the labour for a room to be decorated is going to be £20+ per hour and a new carpet will swallow the £500 deposit.

are we legally entitled to obtain our own quotes as she is seemingly reluctant to allow us the keys back. 

Have requested a photo of said stain in living room as it was wet when I left the property. 

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This just got a whole lot confusing

 

email on the 18th said

All issues are easily resolved yet it just seems there are quite a few. Please see the below. I will highlight the below items which I feel you are responsible. Further to speaking with your landlord he is happy to cover the other issues not reported as a goodwill gesture and he is happy for us to give you the opportunity to be given the keys to the property and allow you until Tuesday 23rd April to rectify the issues highlighted and return the keys, failing this the contractor will be asked to quote on rectifying these issues and they will look to recover costs from the deposit

 

Clean

Porch – this would benefit from a repaint.

Living room – Carpet heavily marked / stained.

Paper is coming away from behind the radiator in the living room.

Kitchen – Re hang the door under sink as loose.  

Kitchen drawer – does not close properly.

Kitchen wall – Near radiator damp.

Door to living room does not close due to screws that have come away from the top of the door. Not reported.

Bedroom 1 – Slight white paint marks on walls from the ceiling / marked walls.

Bathroom – Shower works fine, no issues seen yet needs a light clean.

 Bedroom 2 – Door handle – missing.  Light switch cover to dial is missing. Large stain to the bedroom carpet.

Garden – cleaner than previous visits yet cigarette butts strewn all over the garden / bins full.  

Handrail – requires repaint from general wear and tear.

All stained carpets must be cleaned.

Tenant to repaint stained walls in white to ensure walls are back to standard

 

now they are saying

Property clean £150
Treat damp in porch and paint white £30
Replace living room carpet £200
Splice and replace wall paper behind the living room radiator £40
Repair kitchen drawer and cupboard door £20
Damp treat patch in kitchen and paint wall£40
Repair rail to kitchen/living room door £20
Cover paint marks around the ceiling in bedroom 1 magnolia £40
Replace missing door handle £35
Carpet clean bedroom 2 £40
Fix loose hand rail/ bannister at the top of the stairs £15


This totals £630 and swallows up the £500 deposit and more

 

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I did take some pictures but the carpet was wet when i left so it doesnt look true.  It looks dark as it was wet.  I couldnt wet it too much as I didnt want to get a bill for shrinking it. 

I have requested a copy of the tennacy conditions but trying to locate his original copy incase it has been altered to suit their claim.

Dont treust them one inch.  The carpets were never mentuoned on any inspection.  When they gave their notice to quit, my sons girlfirend was told to make sure all lightbulbs were fully working as they can charge up to £35 to replace.  That was the main thing she needed to do.  As long as all the lightbulbs were working she could get her deposit back.  But nothing in Writing.  Only verbal.

 

They have just sent an offer of taking £200 and refunding the rest.  Just spoken to the previous tennant and he thinks the stain was there when he left, but he cant be sure.  I think £200 for replacing the carpet is a bit much as it must be at least 4 years old.  Would we be within our rights to offer £100?

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