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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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What you are talking about is 'adverse posession' but it is a long winded affair as it takes (I believe) 10 years and you have to enclose it within your own boundary and await complaints. (If any).

 

By far the best way is to what many others do, and put in a Planning Application. Specify the ground, its location and your wish to enclose it within your own property. If a strip, and there's no objection - once permission is granted - your purpose will be to bring it within your curtilage, enclose and maintain the X sq m of common ground as part of your garden. Pay the fee, and if you hear no more - do it.

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We're talking about common ground - not an area that is legitimately that of another landowner. Adverse posession is used often under these circumstances.

 

As for the Planning wrinkle I outlined, I can confirm that this does not address the issue of ownership - but does much to protect the applicant as they have made no secret of their intentions, and as far as my last council trawll found, has a 90% success rate.

 

Neighbour notification remains a requirement regardless - so I don;t see your point here.

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Just spokewn with a a distant neighbour who was in a siumilar situation. Hew took the Planning Appllcation approach to enclose an extra strip of land to meet the edge of a pre-existing pathway running across common ground (amenety use). His application was granted, and he enclosed the land by extending his boundary. This was in 2004, and apart from one objection (by a neighbour) the Council Planning agreed to it, and he heard no more.

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Whether I believe you on not is irrelevant. Having now checked my local Planning website had discovered 11 such applications for these 'strips' is the last 5 years alone. Adverse posession does exist, and can be expensive when challenged. On common land, there is a different issue, as the largest landowner in any area is invariably the Council.

 

By lodging a plannig application simply to enclose the land and nothing more, provides a fully traceable means and in an offhand way, gives the council notice of the intention of the neighbour. If they did not raise any issues at this point, makes it very difficult to claim they object or had no notice of the intention of the applicant.

 

The situation you outline is hardly relevant for the reasons outlined earlier. As for the council being 'numpties' their actions make them legally accountable regardless. I've no axe to grind either way, however as the council are accepting money for such applications assuming that it reflects use of their land, it appears to be a recognised and dare I say an approved method of proceeding to regularise an otherwise unsatisfacory situation.

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Disagree away. I've you've spent any more than an hour in George Square bemused by the chaotic state of indexing and an inability to find what you want - especially if it doesn;t have a posatcode or defined postal address, your confidence (and money) will be depleted considerably.

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