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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Reading this as Welcome would they will just cancel the policy and credit the reamining payments to your account - should you not be asking for the premiums you have paid so far back as well. Remember you should also be asking for catractual interest, statutory interest and compensation.

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No I'm saying your not asking for a refund properly

 

Your letter reads that you would like to cancel your insurance - it does not make clear you are alleging the policy was mis-sold and therefore wanting all the prmiums paid back.

 

You need to be more clear here as Welcome will likely just cancel your policy and refund future premiums not the ones you have already paid.

 

You also need to work out the amount that you request back so you know exactly how much you are owed.

 

You also need to put in your letter that you request ALL premiums refunded AS WELL AS interest both statutory i.e. the interest you have been charged and contractual i.e. for you losing the benefit of that money and compensation for your inconvinience.

 

And i'm a she by the way :)

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Try something like this instead

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

Re: Agreement Number

 

I purchased the above policies from you in connection with the loans referenced above.

I believe that I was mis-sold these policies for the reason(s) given below, and wish you to investigate my complaint according to your normal complaint procedures.

 

The policy exclusions weren’t explained to me before or at the time I took out the insurance. I was therefore unable to make an informed decision as to whether this insurance was appropriate for me.

 

It was not explained to myself that the insurances were optional and infact I was instructed by your agent that obtaining the loan relied on taking out insurances.

 

The cost of a single-premium front loaded policy was never fully explained to myself nor was a sufficient needs and demands questionnaire completed by myself to assess whether the products being sold were suitable.

 

I am also now aware that your sales advisors receive commision upon the sale of insurance products and therefore their actions cannot be impartial. This should have been made clear to myself at the time of the insurance being sold.

 

Please now investigate my complaint within the eight weeks allowed to you. I expect that you will uphold my complaint and refund all premiums paid plus both statutory and compound interest and compensation.

 

If I have not recieved a satisfactory response within 8 weeks I will forward my complaint to the small claims court where you may be liable for my costs incurred.

 

 

 

Yours Faithfully

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Exactly and had they done a proper needs and demands they would have known this.

 

But i've seen the comissions they get on insurance products and believe me they sell them cos they are a bloody good rate. If your insrances were say £2k in total the commision paid is somewhere between 20-25% so why wouldn't a sales person be told to push them????

 

Don't go into chapter and verse in your letter to them - just give them your basic reasons and leave them to do the rest otherwise they will try and get you to say a number of different things to get out of it.

 

Welcome are notorious - and they hate me as I have discovered a lot of illegal activity whilst researching my own PPI against them.

 

Make sure you don't sign any letters you send them they are also quite good with cut and paste on photoshop!!

 

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