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Hmmmmm! It don't work like that ... we be doing pasties in our lunch break. We were discussing a Pasty Eden fest for next summer ... that could include a weekend ...

Perhaps ... so ... we gonna get Lex and HairBearBunch along to the next one in a few weeks time?

And the salt ... what about the salt?

Rowe's instead of Barney's - makes a change. Yum yum. Lex ... what happened to you then?

Oh lordy, what a petty and unneccesary direction CAG has taken ... it used to be that when people were in error they would have their error explained to them, by the helpful people at CAG. Now it has gone the way of the banks.

 

Unintelligible term or phrase in that letter from the bank? Then you had better seek independent legal advice for clarification, because we aren't going to explain our made up words to you ... we're not paid to do that.

Meant to come in here a few weeks ago ... after three "willpower" attempts, and failures, this year I decided to admit to myself, and to others, that for once I couldn't do it on my own. The nicotine receptors were just too forceful in screaming "FEED ME!"

 

Stop smoking clinic/counsellor at the doctor's, a discussion about the mental health effects on those previously prescribed anti-depressants, and I was put on a course of Champix.

 

I'm an old cynic, as everyone who knows me will testify, but bugger me if these pills don't do the job. Amsterdam with my Bro for a few days in mid-August, resolved to have my last ciggie before getting on the plane home, and I haven't looked back, or been tempted, since.

 

If you are on the edge of giving up the please please go to the doctor's, ask to see the stop smoking nurse, and get on those tablets. You will never look back. Six weeks clean for me now ... at long long last.

 

You can do it too ... you just have to want it bad enough. I'll cheer you on if you do.

Thread still here then? Well, I wonder what that says about all the rules, and the "educational tools to improve understanding of the forum rules." If it wasn't so pathetic I'd start laughing. I honestly expected the thread to be pulled in the interests of fairness and equality to all other posters that have had their threads pulled. In fact I feel like I'm being discriminated against by virtue of the fact that the thread is still here ...

 

To paraphrase someone we all know: " ... as you were ... "

Bookie getting keen on Chrome? LOL - I knew that I would convert you one day to the faster browser, just like I converted you to FF when it was the fastest. I think.

Well it's not a job that I'd want to be honest. Maybe there should be a mod-free zone called "Anything Goes" - with the clear disclaimer from the site team that the views therein do not represent the views of the CAG.

 

Regards.

 

Fred

Perfect ... and that is exactly how the Bear Garden started out. If people had serious issues with specific points then these could be reported for investigation by the mods. What the mods didn't do was trawl the BG looking for offence where none was reported. Talk of the Pope should be in this section, it should be allowed, and it should be unmoderated ... if people get upset by the "ungodly" amongst us then it shows just how shaky the foundations of their faith truly are.

Like I said Spiceskull, I don't disagree. You have to consider though that the moderators are among the more experienced people on the site. Ultimately it is probably preferable that they spend more of their (volunteered) time giving help and advice to people with consumer issues than refereering spats on threads about the Pope.

I agree with that sentiment exactly, and in support of that view I think that mods should stay out of the Bear Garden ... historically the place where most butts get bitten.

 

I only started this thread in defence of a dear old friend, at one point the most respected mod on CAG (the reasons for which are lost in the mists of pre-history) - what is happening is a repeat performance of what happened two or three years ago ... an inner cabal attempting to impose their will on the majority, with all dissenters either shouted down, or where that shouting has no effect they are neutered by post removal.

 

Believe me, it has been said before and it will be said again ... the best and most suitable mods are the ones that don't want the role. You need to question the motives of those who actively seek promotion to the role of mod.

It seems to me that the moderators are policing the threads properly, and don't consider that "they have better things to do." After all, moderating on CAG is an honour to aspire to, and woe betide anyone who questions any action that could be deemed suppressive. After all, this sort of behaviour is totally legal, and recognised as such by the "free world" - to wit: Google's reporting of FOI requests by certain governments, with the exception of China, who considers that even the reporting of a the request is a crime against state security.

 

Or closer to home we have court injunctions in defence of personal privacy, and even the fact that the injunction exists is considered a state secret, and exempt from confirmation or explanation.

 

No, the forum has rules, and the mods have the power of post removal " as an educational tool to improve understanding of the forum rules." What sort of cobblers is an explanation such as that when a simple question is asked? Did doubleplusungood just enter our vocabulary again?

The Bear Garden is an indulgence. I can see a time where the entire Bear Garden gets pulled if it becomes too much of a drain on the resources of the site

That is a fair point Fred, and I would agree with it to a very large extent. However, the drain on resources would only be a problem if the threads in question were "pushing their luck" and "pushing the boundaries" where a point of law or the threat of action were in evidence. The drain would be a reasonable prevention in defence of the site.

 

Where threads get pulled only because they cover topics that may upset the sentiments of some, but otherwise cause no harm, then that is the censorship at issue here. After all, God has yet to be proven to be real, and therefore anyone who claims to represent God is clearly making a false claim. False claims should ALWAYS be contested, and CAG was founded upon defence of claims that can be proved, and claims that have merit.

 

Banks have historically also made false claims, just as the Pope has done, yet no-one saw fit to pull the threads and posts of those CAGgers who spoke out against those claims.

 

The Bear Garden may be an indulgence, but whilst the indulgence is granted then it must be granted equally for one and all, and without fear or favour.

And if this thread gets pulled then it shows all too clearly that CAG has sold out, and that YOU don't matter anymore. The only thing that matters to those that pull this thread is a) doing as they are told, without question and b) kowtowing to the powers that be.

 

If this thread is pulled then your only logical course of action is to leave CAG, and to go find some support from people with morals and backbone.

I left CAG for many reasons, but the main one was the stifling of free speech, especially when that free speech was accompanied by a measure of responsibility. I see that things have not changed, and it seems that people who air negative views about the Pope and religion are being persecuted.

 

Isn't that what they were doing in the 16th century, isn't that what has been the problem with society for 2000 years? The smaller man bullied and harassed by the bigger powers that be? Didn't the free market principles of Thatcherism, and lately Blairism bring about a new breed of bully in the church of corporate power?

 

Of course it is, then one day a wonderful voice was heard, sticking up for the little guy, and bringing people power to bear on the bullies. In early 2006 CAG was suddenly a force to be reckoned with. And as the decade of the noughties draws to a close even the voice of CAG is finally silenced by the word of God.

 

What about those that don't believe in God? Don't they have a right to be heard? Or is there only one truth after all, and all other voices are the voices of heretics.

 

Shame on you.

Ooops, I ate it last week.

No! You ate a cheese and onion pasty (not a real pasty) - with cutlery!

You have them over a barrell ... they may not have read or accepted ... by they did accept under the principle of "acceptance by conduct."

 

I've been invited to view this thread, and will talk more tomorrow. (thanks Caro!)

Yes, the Judge will probably agree the set aside, unless of course you can give a good enough reason for him to decline DG's request.

 

It is almost three years since I have been up against DG, and whilst they may have been easy meat in those days I am sure they will have sharpened up their act since.

 

All the set asides are just a way to inconvenience banks' customers, customers that they will ultimately have to deal with once the test case is finalised.

 

Good luck.

We are no doubt referring to Black Adder being visited by Lord and Lady White Adder, Puritans in the extreme, to discuss Bladders' inheritance. On the menu is turnip, and nothing else!

 

During the course of his culinary preparations Baldrick discovers a turnip that looks like a 'thingy,' and goes on to reveal that this is a coincidence, as he has a 'thingy' that looks like a turnip.

 

The meal proceeds (mashed turnip) and it transpires that Lady W will only eat RAW turnip ... and the only raw turnip available is ... the turnip shaped like a 'thingy.'

 

Anyway, the pasties were great ... and since then I have been busy swotting away, and have just submitted my completed portfolio for my adult learning teaching course ... fingers not crossed as I already know that I have passed.

 

Bookie is wrong - I know lots of stuff about lots of things, although it is true that I don't know everything about everything ...

 

And congrats to me old mucker the Crushster on his recent BA.

 

Stick all that in yer pipe and smoke it woman!

Oi Worm! You're just jealous you weren't there, stuffing your face with pasties.

Is this the thread you were on about Crush?