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None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date.   2.        I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment.   As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. 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The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018.   5.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020.   6.        Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicotors is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’   7.        I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’.   8.        The claimant relies upon and exhibits a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement.   It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HH Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’.   The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause.   9.        Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not try to mislead the court.   10.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024
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I need help urgently.As i dont know what i am doing.Court on 15 august.Havent finished my bundle cofused.Can someone email me some details what i have to send.My bundle has to be sent off tomorrow.

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You need to include a copy of your schedule of charges, and you need copies of all the statements that have charges on them. It's probably a good idea to update the interest if you can, but if not, your claim says the daily amount being added so that is sufficient.

 

Bookworms court bundle explains that you need an index, so every page needs a number on, and you list on the index what's on the pages. It is probably a good idea to put them in a file if you can, but nothing too heavy as you'll need to post it to YB, and the court too if you can't take it yourself.

 

Ask away until you are happy that you have all you need.

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You need to include a copy of your schedule of charges, and you need copies of all the statements that have charges on them. It's probably a good idea to update the interest if you can, but if not, your claim says the daily amount being added so that is sufficient.

 

Bookworms court bundle explains that you need an index, so every page needs a number on, and you list on the index what's on the pages. It is probably a good idea to put them in a file if you can, but nothing too heavy as you'll need to post it to YB, and the court too if you can't take it yourself.

 

Ask away until you are happy that you have all you need.

Do i need to photo copy all the statements.Or just send spreadsheets.To court/and bank.? thank you caro
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You need to copy them I'm afraid, and if you have to go to court you must take the originals with you.

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Yes, you do need one for each of them.

 

Although YB haven't ever submitted a bundle, they have always settled out of court.

 

If you submitted the draft directions, their defence may even be struck out, so you will win anyway. It's hard to predict what will happen in your case because of the test case the OFT and the banks have started.

 

Don't worry though, as you can post everything on your thread and we'll help all we can.

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Yes, you do need one for each of them.

 

Although YB haven't ever submitted a bundle, they have always settled out of court.

 

If you submitted the draft directions, their defence may even be struck out, so you will win anyway. It's hard to predict what will happen in your case because of the test case the OFT and the banks have started.

 

Don't worry though, as you can post everything on your thread and we'll help all we can.

Hello caro.i posted off my court bundles.Just checked online with royalmail.Apparently the one for the legal services (Kirsty ross) is still in dispatch in oldham.I rang them and dont know when its going to be sent out.Thats B---dy great isnt it.My court case is 15 august.I dont know what to do?
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Don't worry about it. You've sent it, and can prove you sent it, and anyway YB have had loads of these bundles so they know what to expect. It can take quite a long time before delivery is shown on the Royal Mail site.

 

Take a look at the various guidance notes in the library for getting ready for court. Look through all of them to see which apply to you. Some will help you more than others I think.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/guidance-notes/

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Don't worry about it. You've sent it, and can prove you sent it, and anyway YB have had loads of these bundles so they know what to expect. It can take quite a long time before delivery is shown on the Royal Mail site.

 

Take a look at the various guidance notes in the library for getting ready for court. Look through all of them to see which apply to you. Some will help you more than others I think.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/guidance-notes/

I will have a look.The bundles held up because of a postal strike Thats what the lady said anyway.
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Don't worry about it. You've sent it, and can prove you sent it, and anyway YB have had loads of these bundles so they know what to expect. It can take quite a long time before delivery is shown on the Royal Mail site.

 

Take a look at the various guidance notes in the library for getting ready for court. Look through all of them to see which apply to you. Some will help you more than others I think.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/guidance-notes/

Caro.Should i send a N225 so they cant put a stay on the case? I have read it somewhere else.What someone elses is doing.How do i do it?

thank you maggie

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I'm not clear why you would need an N225 or an N244 but certainly I would use the updated application for removal of a stay if you need it maggie. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/17065-application-removal-stay-updated.html

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The N244 is if the stay has already been applied and needs removal. The first part is a letter to send to object to a stay before the judge has agreed to it.

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I would be inclined to wait to hear from the court. I think it's probably best not to pre-empt anything, but if you have to go to court make sure that you have the document with you just in case.

 

Sorry if this isn't very clear, but we are trying to respond to the issues quickly and sometimes need to do a bit of fine tuning. Bear with us.

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Thanks georgie. We're trying. Very trying some would say.;)

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Hi maggie what is the state of play now at your end - did you contact the bank regarding the proposed stay. :)

 

Hi georgie.No they havent put a stay on it.Its just incase they do.Not heard a thing from them.When i mentioned stay before.I ment last april the bank put a stay on,In which they were suppose to settle bye 7th may, They didnt do anything about it. Still havent.So its off to court 15th august.I wrote a letter to the judge in with the court bundle explaining How these charges have effected my life and how they have took a other £800 since christmas last yr.And i do agree in a fee for going overdrawn but i begrudge paying £20/£30 each time i go over.Dont know weather it will help my case just have to wait and see.Wonder if i will get a letter etc. before court date?

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Just recieved my letter from YB they intend to apply for a stay, my court date is for next week same day as you, so already sent my objection letter so see what happens from here on in. All good fun. ;)

 

Really? I phoned my court.They havent heard a thing either.The lady recons they may be trying to settle with me.Just have to wait and see.Wont i ? How long have you been trying to get your charges back? i have been trying for 12mths now.been a ball ache.Just hope its settled soon.getting p-----d off now.

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Started my claim last march so not as long as you, I think we will need a judge with some balls to stand up and be counted although I hate to say it I think a deal has been done with the banks and the courts. We are so near and yet so far, but hang on in there we have come this close, who knows what could happen in the next few days.

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Not all the courts are agreeing to stays so don't give up.;)

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