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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Fair Debt Collection Practices In Australia

 

Debt collectors must act within the law when recovering debts. This means they must obey laws that are designed to protect you from harassment. Under these laws, a debt collector must not:

 

use physical force or coercion (forcing or compelling you to do something)

 

harass or hassle you to an unreasonable extent

 

mislead or deceive you (or try to do so)

 

take unfair advantage of any vulnerability, disability or other similar circumstance affecting you (this is known as .unconscionable conduct.).

 

The information below will help people who are currently dealing with debt problems or being contacted by debt collectors. It outlines your rights under the Commonwealth consumer protection laws, as well as general advice for those who are having difficulties with their level of debt.

 

Unacceptable practices by debt collectors

 

The types of conduct set out below are likely to breach consumer protection laws, and may breach other laws as well. This is not a complete list. If you experience any of these behaviours (or other similar misconduct), you should take action.

 

Extreme conduct - force, trespass, intimidation

 

If you are confronted by extreme conduct, report it to the police immediately.

 

Debt collectors must not:

 

use or threaten force of any kind towards you, any member of your family or any other person connected with you

 

damage or threaten to damage your property

 

block access to your property, or block your way

 

enter your property when you have refused permission, or fail to leave when you ask them to.

 

Unreasonable contact, harassment, overbearing manner

 

Debt collectors must not:

 

shout at you or abuse you, use obscene or racist language or make personal or demeaning comments (you might also want to report this conduct to the police)

 

contact you more frequently than necessary or at unreasonable times,for example, it is unacceptable to keep phoning you without a break or to contact you late at night or at other unreasonable times as a way of demoralizing or exhausting you.

 

make other persistent contact or unreasonable disturbances.

 

Embarrass or intimidate you through other people

 

Debt collectors must not:

 

threaten or harass your spouse, partner, family member or another person connected with you

 

make any unauthorized contact with a child under the age of 18 years

 

talk about your situation to other people (including family members, neighbors or co-workers) unless you have agreed to the contact,such actions may also breach the privacy laws: see 'Finding out about your privacy rights' (below) for more details

 

engage in conduct that draws people's attention to your situation (e.g. send open letters to a shared post-box, leave messages that others may listen to, make their identity or purpose known to people you work with again, such actions may also breach privacy laws).

 

False or misleading statements and/or conduct

 

Debt collectors must not:

 

make false statements about the amount you owe, or the status of your debt,for example:

 

say you owe a debt when you do not

 

say the amount you owe is greater than it is

 

say that you have no choice but to pay a debt if you have a valid defence against payment, unless there has been a court judgment: see the section on 'Disputing a debt'

 

say that your spouse or partner must pay your debt when they have no legal liability to do so: see 'Are you responsible for someone else's debt?' (above)

 

say that there has been a court judgment if this is not true

 

make false statements about what will happen if the debt is not paid, or what the debt collector intends to do,for example:

 

say that unpaid debts are a criminal offence involving the police or possibly jail (being in debt is not a crime!)

 

say that your children can be taken away from you (this is completely false)

 

say that you will be made bankrupt immediately, even though there has been no court judgment or bankruptcy proceedings started

 

ay that your goods (e.g. your car) will be seized and sold immediately, even though there is no mortgage over the goods and no court judgment (if there is a mortgage over the goods, generally you must be given notice and 30 days to pay first)

 

say that your wages will be garnished (taken), even though a court order to allow this has not been obtained

 

say that your credit rating will be damaged, if that is not true (privacy laws limit the type of information that a credit reporting agency can hold on file, how long it can be on file, and who can access the information

 

use other misleading appearances or actions, for example:

 

send letters demanding payment that are designed to look like court documents

 

pretend to be (or pretend to act for) a solicitor, court or government body.

 

Other unfair or unconscionable conduct

 

Debt collectors must not:

 

take unfair advantage of you if you are specially disadvantaged because of illness, disability, age, illiteracy or other circumstance

 

take unfair advantage of you if you are ignorant of the law, the debt recovery process, or the consequences of not paying a debt.

 

Complaining about harassment or misconduct by debt collectors

 

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) and the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) look after the Commonwealth laws that protect people from undue harassment and other illegal debt collection conduct.

 

You should report harassment that is serious and/or ongoing to the ACCC or ASIC, or to the consumer affairs or fair trading agency in your state or territory. Conduct involving assault or threats of violence should be reported to the police.

 

Statute Of Limitations On Debts In Australia

 

A statute of limitations is a statute in a common law legal system that sets forth the maximum period of time, after certain events, that legal proceedings based on those events may be initiated.

 

 

Why should you care about the Statute Of Limitations if you have a account in collections

 

A creditor may only bring action for the recovery of debts in accordance with the statute of limitations in the State or Territory in which the debt arose. The statute of limitations on debts for goods and services is generally six years and 3 years in the Northern Territory. This means that a court will not hear an action for payment where a debt is outstanding for more than six years. Legal action on such debts is therefore statute barred.

 

How does the Statute Of Limitations affect my credit report

 

Section 2.8 of the Credit Reporting Code of Conduct, issued in accordance with section 18A of the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth), prohibits the listing of statute barred debts with a credit reporting agency. Section 2.8 of the Credit Reporting Code of Conduct provides that a credit provider must not give to a credit reporting agency information about an individual being overdue in making a payment where recovery of the debt by the credit provider is barred by the statute of limitations.

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