Parking and photographs

[crem]

........ since you could have moved it after you got the PCN. If you did get a PCN surely you could take a photo afterwards as the car would still be in the same place.

 

If he is using a date/time stamping camera (like most of the digi ones are) he would be able to prove the position of the car before the PCN was issued, and if one is issued I presume he would take another to demonstrate the car is still parked exactly as it was after the ticket was issued.

[crem]

I also drive at 5mph under the speed limit to avoid penalty points on me licence.

 

 

Most car speedos (I'm tempted to say all) read 2 or 3 miles under the actual speed anyway to ensure you're within the limit. Plus the ACPO guidelines give you 10% + 1 before they are supposed to procecute. This would mean on a 40mph road you wouldn't get procecuted until you were doing 45mph whilst you are probably driving at 33mph to avoid it. (5mph under the 40 on your speedo is more likely to be 33mph).

 

A more likely result is other people around you are getting caught speeding as they inadvertantly go over the limit for a short time while trying to get past you crawling along so far under the limit!

Edited September 15, 2008 by crem

[crem]

All I can say, I have been there and got more than a handfull of points for breaking the speed limit, there fore I put systems in place to ensure I am not giving away my hard earned cash to the Courts, or loosing my licence.

Its all about damage limitation.

If you are following me down the road, then I am making sure that you dont get done, if you want to race ahead, you are better off in front of me.

You do it your way and al do it mine.

 

If you have received a number of speeding fines then you were driving well in excess of the recorded speed on your speedometer as I outlined above!

 

Driving at the speed limit as allowed on a specified road does not constitute "racing ahead" as you put it. Please remember driving too slow on a road, although not specifically an offense, can lead to a road safety issue when you end up causing traffic to back-up. Driving ridicously slowly, (particularly on fast moving roads like motorways), can be considered careless driving by the police and you could still be prosecuted for that.

[crem]

You are sugesting I drive slowly I do not, I drive safey.

There is an old saying in driving circles as follows.

' Any Fool Can Drive Fast Enogh To Be Dangerous. '

I have had my moment of glory, and as The Who sang,

' I Wont Get Fooled Again.'

As I have said before, you drive your way and I'll drive my way.

End of story.............................................................

 

Well as I spend all day every day teaching it for a living, I would like to think I drive both safely and reasonably. I am neither a fool nor drive fast enough to be dangerous at any time, nor do any of the learners I teach.

 

As I said before, driving at or near the speed limit for a given road providing the road and weather conditions are appropriate is perfectly safe and leads to good traffic flow.

 

As an aside I can tell you that driving at an unreasonable amount below the speed limit when the conditions suggest a faster speed would be safe will result in a learner being marked with "driving faults" on an L-test.

[crem]

Okay G&M I need your address to send the bill for dry cleaning, having spat my coffee out laughing at that!!!!!!!

 

Mossy

 

Will that be a Penalty Cleaning Notice (PCN) or will you be up front about it and just call it a straightforward cleaning invoice?