All, been meaning to come on here for months to say thanks for your help. I wrote a final letter to them, clearly spelling out the timing and clauses within the act, finishing with a threat to take them to court for harassment should i receive any further correspondence from them. Needless to say, I didn't hear anything further from them! Thanks for your help.

(4)The notice must be given by— (a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or (b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period. (5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver was given. this is it i think?

the only reference i can find to a 56 day period is a response to a respresentation

thanks f16, reading the below it looks like no more than 6 months? B9.3 You must post the parking ticket to the keeper as soon as possible. Your target is to send the parking ticket to the keeper of the vehicle no more than 14 days after receiving the keeper data from DVLA, and no more than 35 days after the unauthorised parking event. The maximum permitted time you have to notify the keeper is no more than 28 days after receiving the keeper data from DVLA and no more than six months after the unauthorised parking event. B9.3.1 Your letter to the keeper should point out the details of the unauthorised parking event and ask for payment. B9.4 It is the driver’s obligation to pay the parking ticket. If you receive information from the keeper which identifies the driver, and the driver is someone else, you have an 18 extra 21 days after receiving the information to serve the parking ticket by post on the driver. sorry if this i am frustrating anyone on this, but it's not 100% clear to my mind......

thanks ericsbrother.... they have sent me another letter in response to my letter, basically stating that under the POFA I am liable for the charge and that they wont write to me on the matter again. I have read the POFA and I couldn't spot the timing stipulation regarding the validity of the NTK (i.e. later than 56 days). I will respond to the letter maintaining my stance and state that any further correspondence from them or anyone else on the matter, and i will look to start proceedings re harassment. i have also emailed POPLA to ask them directly regarding the timing.....

Hi, thanks for the response but it's too late...I've sent a letter written as the registered keeper stating that they have not issued the notice in accordance with POFA (gave them the dates and number of days, 61 days) and that on that basis I was not liable for any charges and i was not obliged to give them the details of the driver. I read the words on a site called parking cowboys and used some wording form there.... we will see, but to my mind now I'm pretty sure I'm ok as they haven't acted in accordance with POFA.

Hi all, today is the 27th day so i am looking to get something in teh post today..... Is the general consensus that I should appeal first as suggested, get a popla and then state that the notice to keeper wasn't issued in time? Or do i simply write stating that the NTK was not issued in accordance with the POFA and assume there is nothing to answer? Cheers

Date of the windscreen ticket, or "contravention" is the 27th November 2013. The post date of the NTK was the 24th/01/14 (Friday) with the "date this notice is given" being the 28th January 2014. I actually received it on the 27th, which was the Monday. I've just sat down to write a letter and I thought I would check this thread again before i actually go for it.....

cool, i'll write a letter to them this week!

No. They referred to popla on the ticket. i haven't appealed to anyone. i was waiting to see if i got a ntk, which i got a few days ago.

ps: i received the notice on the 27th January, more than 56 days later.....

hi, thanks for your replies. I Now have a notice from NCP. I was thinking of writing and refusing to pay on the basis that i paid for a ticket, teher was acres of spaces and they have suffered no loss as a consequence.... or should i just ignore it? Thanks

330d coupe, 2011 60 plate. 30k. These rattles are worse than any other car i have owned and i have never owned a car younger than 4 years old...... perhaps the fact that i spent so much on it i am sensitive to anything, but i would expect a premium motor to be good for at least 5 to 8 years before it starts to rattle and buzz at me each trip......

ps: 37 thousand on the clock...rattles started a year ago last summer.

i bought it direct from a BMW dealer, was an ex demo with 6k or 9k on the clock, cant remember. It's a three years warranty......

what's an NTK?

nope

dx, on the ticket they said i can go to popla, yes. i have done this and popla seems to be as much use as chocolate teapot (on the basis of their grounds of appeal) Armadillo, the date of the ticket was 2 weeks ago last wednesday, 27th Nov cheers

cheers dx..... so should i write a letter? an have i actually entered into a contract by paying for the actual ticket in the first place? thanks

cheers dx (again!)

Evening all, I was considering just paying the ticket i received recently but the more i thought about it the more i thought it was unfair / very harsh. So i thought i would have a dig around on the net and came across this place. briefly, the circumstances of how i ended up with a ticket are: I arrived at brentwood station car park run by, and google tells me, owned by NCP. It was fairly busy in one section of the car park, i am very picky about parking my car next / close to other cars so i bombed down to an area without many cars in it at all and picked a spot on the end of a row of bays. I did pass a signed about permits but thought that it was only for the bays directly by the sign. It would seem the permit area was from that sign and beyond to the end of the car park! Anyway, i bought my ticket for the day (over paid as i didn't have the correct change) and went about my day. came back and bang, i have a ticket for 75 notes on my wind screen!!! Anyone that has been to brentwood station car park (the massive one that's actually across the road from the station itself) will know that it is huge!! Accepted i parked where i should park, but to say that i caused them losses by paying for a space, parking in a permit spot is beyond belief. Notwithstanding that, there is acres, and i mean acres of car parking spaces that do not get used by the permit holders on a daily basis. I have done some reading on this forum, and have come across the wording below. Firstly, do people here think i should have a go and defend the ticket? Secondly, what is the best reason / avenue to go down? i think proof of loss as i paid up and to my mind they lost absolutely nothing by me parking in that spot for the day!! A guy i know gave me a letter which was more about legal fiction, and no contract blah blah, but i wasn't convinced by this as i didn't full understand it (and i don't feel confident defending something with a letter i don't really understand should i need to them back it up further) he also said that signing an appeal letter means you have entered into a contract with the?? anyway, below is the wording i found on here, just to show that i have done some reading! "Please read through the forum and get to understand what the arguments are. Your defence will basically be that you deny that you are indebted. You deny that there was any contract. That even if there was a contract, any term which they are attempting to rely upon is an unenforceable penalty because the money they claim is in excess of any administrative losses which may have been caused by you. That the term they are trying to rely upon is also unfair under the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts regs. for the same reason - and therefore invalid. And that in any event, they are not the owners of the carpark and furthermore they have no interesticon in the land which entitles them to enter into any contract or to name themselves as a claimant in the proceedings - and furthermore, they do not have any authority from the landowners to bring any proceedings. However, before we settle this. Please lay out the exact facts - including who what where nature of signage etc. In the meantime, write a letter to them - recorded and tell them that you want details breakdown of any losses which they say were sustained by them and which they say were caused by you. details of any losses which have been sustained by the landowner and which they say were caused by you Evidence that they have the locus standii to sue you - and also written evidence that they are authorised by the landowner to do so. Tell them that you will be defending their claim and that you will be informing the court that you have made these requests and that if they refuse or fail to provide you with the information, that you will inform the court of that refusal or failure."

Evening all, my first post, so i hope i am posting in the correct forum..... A little bit of background on my possible, upcoming issues. I have had problems with the interior of my car rattling, buzzing and generally not being fit for purpose to be honest. I have been back to BMW on several occasions and they have spent a lot of time fixing rattle after rattle and buzz after buzz. Judging by the list reeled off the last time i picked it up, they virtually took the whole inside of the car apart and put t all back together last time they had a go at it. I dropped it off yet again today, with yet more rattles and buzzing. The warranty runs out in january.. ... can anyone advise me on where i stand with issues / ongoing issues that are not resolved during the warranty period and continue to be a problem thereafter? thanks in advance. Matt