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Yes exactly. Last year when we had the really high winds around autumn time, that was when it leaked. The building inspector is talking about upstands which cost hundreds each apparently, which are special order from velux only. And they look UGLY. They are the ones which are used for flat roofs. One more point. He is an NRFC member so is it likely he will use these people? http://www.qanw.co.uk/
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Look what I have found. http://www.corc.co.uk/code-of-practice EXECUTION OF CONTRACT AND MATERIALS USED. 5. Each trade member shall execute each contract in accordance with current building regulations, relevant British or European Standards or other technical approved accreditation’s operative at the time, and of practice relevant to the work being carried out. 5.1 Each contract must be fully supervised for quality of workmanship, adherence to specification, compliance with Building Regulations and client satisfaction. 5.2 Where a client seeks to disregard a trade member’s advice on work to be carried out, or materials to be used, the facts shall be recorded in writing. The company is not a member.
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Haha, the builder jargon is pretty confusing. I did spend a while googling plate ties
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I replied to your PM F16
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Thats the thing. The architect's plans dont say anything about number of tiles. Just they must be a low pitch. I feel pretty foolish. It seems like ive been "had" from every angle. The architect was not cheap either. I am assuming the architect left those decisions to the roofer/building control/myself. It would make sense as the architect cannot specify everything right? The roofer must use common sense or experience surely when doing a job? Shall I send this? "Could you please clarify what ventilation requirements there are for my pitched roof at approximately 13 degrees. Must there be the presence of gable, soffit and tile vents for the correct ventilation of the roof?"
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The building inspector's email In reply to the questions raised in your email, I had agreed to accept a valid guarantee from (Company) for the roof covering, flashings and flat decking, all laid at the pitch as set out. However you stated that on testing the roof the windows/window flashings were found to be leaking and the guarantee was therefore void. My understanding is that this leak may have been due to the flashing kits being defective or damaged goods. In order to ensure that the roof and Velux windows with flashing kits can be demonstrated to meet the fundamental requirements of the Building Regulations, and pass for inspection purposes, I would suggest that you have two options. You could, as I have previously advised, contact Velux to make an enquiry about ordering appropriate special flashing kits. The alternative would be to carry out a water test to demonstrate that the roof windows and flashing kits, as installed and as repaired, prevent the ingress of water. This would be in conjunction with the roofer’s guarantee. (Which I understand is now to be backed by verification or an insurance from the National Federation of Roofing Contractors?) I’m not aware of any discussions relating to a guarantee to be provided by Velux, except where their products are fitted according to their requirements. Regarding ventilation of the roof, I believe that your architect’s specification noted the use of soffit vents and an eaves ventilation tray in addition to a breathable membrane. A breathable membrane, correctly fitted, is normally considered to be a satisfactory provision in itself to ensure the adequate ventilation to a monopitch roof, without the additional use of eaves, ridge/abutment or tile vents. However, if you have been advised by your architect to add soffit vents and additional tile vents, or an abutment ventilator, to your roof then this may well aid ventilation to ensure the removal of moisture caused by interstitial condensation, and this would not be discouraged, assuming that these vents were to be fitted as per the manufacturer’s instructions. Please note, that when a roof is covered by an additional membrane which does not allow the roof to breathe, (eg. a bitumen felt, a wooden ply/sterling board or an external single ply membrane) then such additional ventilation provisions would always need to be sought. I trust this is adequate confirmation for your purposes but please do not hesitate to contact me should you need clarification. Thank you,
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Yes the roofer agreed in writing that everything on the roof must be to manufacturer's specifications. I can't understand how the judge can allow this roofer to legally breach his contractual agreement. As I purchased these over six months ago I can't find the invoices unfortunately. I know that they were the old model which has been replaced this year with the latest model. These are the links to the new replacements. http://www.velux.co.uk/private/service/velux_roof_windows/ggu http://www.yarddirect.com/velux-single-flashing#.U02WfE1OXcs Unfortunately I did not take any photos while it progressed. I did not even go on the roof. That's why it was comical when the roofer alleged myself and my whole family constantly were on the roof taking pictures and harassing his workers. I do have photos of the timbers from underneath. I can upload them if you think they may be of use, but they do not show very much. The building inspector called me and gave me a follow up email which I will post next. I agree with conducting everything via email.
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Hi Mike, yes that is a mistake. It should read "Not" All I want is the roof not to leak and to last. F16 seems to be extremely knowledgeable on this issue so hopefully I know all the questions to ask and points to raise. What happens then if the inspector refuses to sign the roof off though? Will it just go straight back to a hearing?
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I have been calling the architect and building inspector today and have not been able to get through to either. After reading the judgement by the court, it got me thinking, can you get a second opinion from building control? The inspector I have been using so far from the council seems to be completely incompetent.
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I have received the order from the court It says the following: It is ordered that: 1. The claimant shall at his expense inspect the velux windows and rectify any aspect of the installation likely to result in water ingress. The claimant is now however required to alter the pitch of the roof. Further, and also at the Claimant's expense the Claimant shall arrange an inspection by the local authority inspector. 2. In the event the building inspector approves the work: a) The claimant shall promptly and at his expense arrange an insurance backed guarantee in relation to all of the work carried out on site. b) The defendant shall within 14 days of the guarantee pay the outstanding invoice sum c) In the event the building inspector does not approve the work the parties shall promptly notify Judge xxxxxxxx
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Are you talking about the gap in the insulation at the top? I couldnt get through to the architect today but a different building inspector confimed when I called anonymously that there should be a gap betwen the membrane and the insulation. he could not give me a figure and said he needed to look it up
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The roofer who provided meba report for the court which the claimant shot down in court for not being an expert said the same thing. that the tiles need to slot down and it looked like they were being lazy and couldn't be bothered to cut the tiles properly so judt forced them into place. Unfortunately for the roofer they were all in plain English. not even the dodgy chinese to English translations you commonly get.
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he has said and keeps saying he is a professional and he works for the council blah blah blah. He knew what materials I had and he provided the rest. He specifically said he could get the pitch to manufacturers specs as well. So he has no comeback here either
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Hi F16, the roofer was aware of everything prior. He had regular meeting with myself and the building inspector and his workers read and saw all the plans. So yes he hae no way if claiming he did not know about any of this
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That was the issue. The architect said that the vaulted ceiling was not possible, and as soon as I found out it was possible I changed it to the vaulted ceiling. I will check the invoice tomorrow and find out what the flashing kit was. These were bought nearly a year ago so I cannot remember off the top of my head. Thank you
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I think so. I am not exactly sure what the upstand is. Is it the raised bit around the edge of the window where the tiles are supposed to slot into?
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Yes everything seems to be damaged. I questioned the workers when they were doing the roof that should they not be cutting the tiles on the floor not on the actual roof but they carried on doing it like that and said that was how it was done. There is cutter damage everywhere, even on the velux window where it has bounced off the tiles and hit the window. The velux is the GGU electric center pivot model. The flashing kit is the one made by velux which goes with the windows. I don't know the name, but the supplier I bought it from provided the tiles, windows and flashings and told me they were all compatible. I needed a certain flashing kit for the centurion tiles. For the insulation that was for a flat ceiling. The architect originally told me I could not have a vaulted ceiling, but then the inspector said it was possible and a vaulted ceiling was done instead. That is why it refers to the insulation going over I believe. There is a sectional drawing but it is for the flat ceiling. Is this insulation a big problem? I feel like I've been misled by the inspector and the roofer.
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I am so grateful I cannot put it into words. It was so difficult getting roofers to give quotes let alone even look at me roof. They are all scared of touching someone else's work and as this company is big, a lot of them even knew who did the job before they even visited. I have put so much into this (as have all the kind posters) and there is no way I am going to give up now.
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Have a nice weekend too. Ill message on monday then.
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That sounds good. Thank you very much. I'll wait for their input. If you can could you list the faults, as I am not sure exactly what needs rectifying? Were the tile and lead flashing overlaps fine for example? Ill be back on tomorrow. I think he has lost either way. His poor work will have cost him more money and I will still pay the original invoice and get a fixed roof, which was underquoted in the first place.
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In your opinion how would be the best way to solve this situation? Do I let the roofer come and do the repairs he thinks are necessary? Do I just tell the building inspector all the flaws and see if the roofer will fix all the flaws too? I know he won't change the pitch or make the flat sections to make the pitch 15
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