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  1. Hi Jimmy99 You're absolutely right that its fantastic when everything goes right, but when it goes wrong its an expensive nightmare that goes on and on and on with trying to get some fairness out of it all. Its not so much Samsung themselves that are the huge problem when it comes to buying their products - its the repair arrangements the have with their retailers and their contracted repairers Digicare. Some of Dixons companies, such as PC World do not take the product in. You have to take it home, contact Samsung and they send a courier to pick it up and take it to Digicare. Ther courier does not receipt you for the overall condition of the item and Digicare can easily void your Warranty by claiming the fault was caused by misuse. We bought 2 Samsung netbooks for our grandchildren. Both developed non-responsive keys. The first one developed the fault within a couple of months of purchase and we were very happy with the outcome after it was picked up, taken to Digicare and then returned - it still continues to work to this very day. The 2nd netbook developed the same non-responsive keys fault and was picked up by the courier. We had no reason to suspect anything would go awry until we were contacted by Digicare telling us that the netbook looked as if it had been hit with a heavy object and liquid spilled on and into the netbook. The letter said the DC Jack (motherboard) was damaged, there was keyboard spillage, keyboard was detached, HD damage, left and right hinge damage, right hinge cover damaged and LCD Bezel cracked. Repair charges were £296.70, or £26.00 to have it returned (for which PC World did reimburse us) Given that we took the netbook into PC world when the fault developed and they examined it, that my daughter had to pwer it up and run some tests for the Samsung customer service rep, as well as removing all files on Samsung's advice - so the bulk of the above damage could not have been present at the time, there were no remarks about whast we can now see is highly visible and extensive damage made by the courier, and we both have household insurance we would have used to claim on if it had been damaged prior to collection by the courier. A progressively heated discussion with Digicare had them stubbornly declaring it was damaged in that way when it arrived. After extensive 'discussions' with PC World Samsung informed them that they 'had to' accept Digicare's claims - in short we were lying. Going through local trading standards, after protracted discussions and emails, resulted in being told that because it was picked up from our home liability would have to be determined by a Judge in the small claims court, after which we realised we would then be back to square one; namely trying to get Digicare to admit the truth to Samsung, which is never going to happen. So we are slowly getting rid of all our Samsung equipment (both netbooks have been replaced with Apple tablets and our phones are next on the list for consignment to the local tip). I have several links to forums and posts showing that the above scenario is not uncommon, but unfortunately I do not have enough posts to include links. But if the moderators wish, I can send the links via them.
  2. Hi Steve, Looks like you struck gold with them sending it away to Digicare temselves. The only thing Digicare can do to void the warranty now is to say it was misuse but at least you have someone to fight against that allegation and win. More power to you!
  3. Hi Steve, I take it Currys got you to take the Freesat Box home and ring Samsung, who aranged for a Courier to pick up their product? With a bit of luck you'll be OK with the repair. We had one Netbook that had its non-responsive keys fixed and is still working well for one of my Grandkidss. However, having had the other Netbook with the same problem badly damaged either in transit or by Digicare we are, so far, being ripped off (£200.00) by the P.C. World/Samsung/Digicare axis. I've gone to the OFT and I'm hoping they will do something to alert everyone to the risks of buying a Samsung product, and I suggest you alert them as well. Read my post on 'Is A Dixons/Samsung Warranty Worthless' - Unfortunately it seems the same applies, wherever you buy anything made by Samsung. So the moral of the story is if you want to be treated honestly and fairly, stay well away from PC World, Currys, Dixons and anywhere else that sells a Samsung product - in fact, you might be wise to stay away from Samsung altogether!.
  4. Hi everyone, Having recently had a warranty voided by Samsung and Dixons PLC, after one the 2 Netbooks we purchased for my grandchildren was severely damaged either in transit to Samsung's repair centre, or by their UK contracted repairers (Digicare) I thought I ought to let other potential Dixons Group customers know of the risks they may be running when they purchase a Samsung product - the following risks may also apply to other major retailers, such as Tesco and Asda, who have told me they use the same service in the same way. This is the information I sent to the Office of Fair Trading for investigation. Letter to the OFT Dear Sirs, I am well aware that you do not investigate individual complaints against traders and therefore it does not ask you to investigate an individual single issue but a potentially widespread consumer issue that may be tantamount to fraud, within a major sector of the UK consumer (home electronics) market. Though the potential fraud may extend to several major retailers this request for investigation specifically concerns Samsung and its UK trading partner Dixons Group who together, with the potential collusion of Samsung’s contracted Couriers and their UK contracted repairers Digicare may have constructed a mechanism whereby they may be easily able to ‘ring fence’ themselves against their Warranty obligations, by effectively creating a barrier between consumers and their statutory rights under the 1979 Sale Of Goods Act (SOGA). The following is the so simple as to be almost elegant method they may be widely using to deprive what the Internet indicates may be a great many consumers of equitable treatment under SOGA 1979. 1) When a Samsung product fails to perform you are required to take it into the retailer under its Warranty. 2) When the fault is confirmed, instead of taking receipt of the goods for repair and receipting you for their condition, The Dixons’ Group retailer issues you with Samsung telephone number, tells you that you have to contact Samsung direct and then sends you home with the product. 3) When the consumer contacts Samsung and after they have gone through some basic checks to confirm the product is faulty they arrange for a Courier to pick up the product, from the consumer’s home address. 4) The courier picks up the product, without providing the consumer with a receipt stating the overall condition of the product and takes it to another party, in the form of Samsung’s UK contracted repairers (Digicare). 5) Because the consumer is neither warned of the potential need for, or granted any receipted evidence concerning the fault by the Courier the ‘repairers (Digicare) are then in a ‘bulletproof’ position to claim the fault is due to ‘misuse’ by the consumer, thereby voiding the Warranty. 6) Because the consumer is neither warned of the potential need for, or granted any receipted evidence concerning the condition of the product, by Dixons Group or the Courier, the ‘repairers (Digicare) are then in a ‘bulletproof’ position to claim any damage to the product that may be or has been caused by either the Courier during transit or by Digicare in their premises was caused by the consumer prior to collection, thereby voiding the Warranty 7) When the consumer quite rightly attempts to seek a lawful solution Samsung will support the Courier’s and Digicare’s claims, and Dixons’ will support Samsung’s support of the Couriers and Digicare’s claims, thereby voiding the consumer’s Warranty. 8) At this point, in the case of a faulty product, the consumer’s only options are either to pay for the repair or to have the faulty goods returned without repair, for a fee of £26.00 9) In the case of a product that may have been extensively damaged during transit or repair the consumer’s only options are to either pay for a repair, that may amount to more than the initial cost of the product, or have the damaged goods returned for a fee of £26.00 10)‘Trading Standards’ will advise you that Dixons (PC World) are responsible for the damage under The Sale Of Goods Act 1979 (SOGA). 11)After lengthy delays Dixons (PC World will inform you that Samsung has deemed your Warranty void, on the basis that it has to believe its repairers claim that either you misused the product, or the item was found to be damaged on receipt and, as such, their Warranty is void. 12) If you pursue the matter the Courier, Digicare, Samsung and Dixons Group will continue to support each other to the point where ‘Trading Standards’ will eventually tell you that due to the way the item was conveyed to Digicare (from the consumer’s home) the damage has become a civil issue and you will have to determine liability via a Judge, through the small claims court. 13) This potential collusion between the retailer (Dixons Group), the Couriers, Digicare and Samsung makes it virtually impossible to ‘pin down’ the responsible party and even if a small claims court judgement rules in your favour, it may be virtually impossible to collect the debt if they decline to pay. 14) If the item cost less than £600.00 the consumer cannot even upgrade their legal action to the high court, which does have the power to enforce collection of damages, through its court appointed officer. Thus you can very easily see the Warranty process has been so obfuscated by the involved parties as to turn it into a lottery. I would therefore reiterate my request that the OFT investigate the issue, with a view to compelling the forenamed parties to create and engage in a Warranty process that is manifestly transparent, equitable to all parties and free from all possibility of unfair manipulation Yours faithfully etc.
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