Can some point me in the direction of what a bailiff can and cannot do regarding place a levy fee and make a van visit/attendence fee on the same day.. Im lacking in knowledge as to argue this point. thanks Eggy12

So if I contact the council and ask for a statement of my account after paying LO in full it should show that the bailiff's have been paid from that amount ?

Wiil try and dig them out.. What im suspecting is this; I paid online the amount outstanding, there fee's are 24.50 and maybe the reason the second visit was for is to collect that incurring the second charge of 18.00... still seems wrong though ! Wont know i till dig out the letters or get access to there data !

She says they sent a letter in Nov 09 saying a van will visit to collect and a levy was placed on same day !

Ok just spoke to a lovely lady at council office on phone.. She says basically the bailiff fee's are just !!! What I said is that because I paid online the debt is settled and i only need pay rossendales 24.50.. she then says but if you paid rossendales like you were supposed to then the matter would be resolved, i said no because then an outstanding bill from rossendales would be left and then they add as many charges as possible ( she then put me on hold to speak to line manager) She comes back to say there fee's are justified. I said why did they do a van visit and levy charge the same day she said they are allowed to !! (after being put on hold again) She says a letter was delevered to my address sometime in November saying a van will visit to collect fee's. I said according to this letter i have from Rossendales dated 2 Feb 2010 you only "then" gave them instructions to chase outstanding fee's so the 18 second visit is still a visit trying to collected council tax, she said the fee's are a part of the council tax ! http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/eggytwelve/scan0001-1.jpg After arguing my point a while longer going through everything i could i decided enough as not getting anywhere and said my best approach now is a formal letter, I then took her name and hung up ! Eggy12 I think what she is trying to say is the second visit is for fees.. Makes no sense

Right.. I see.. Just barked down the phone at the council and they agree that 24.50 is all that I should have been charged, told them of all the tactics there using just to gain money.. There going to get back to me !! Watch this space

(ii) for walking possession: £12.00 So if this walking order was on 17th feb as his back dated it too then why is the fee not shown on the statement of account Rossendales sent me ?

yes HW.. Bailiff know's im on his case and thats why he posted a back dated levy yesterday. and even with that he still cannot levy and charge a van visit on the same day

Going to council in a while, just found a letter from Rossendale stating council have instructed them to go ahead with claiming there fee's.. Those being 42.50 dated 2nd Feb, Armed with the info stating i paid before the second visit there figures are wrong and thus this whole thing is out of control..

She is trust worthy/knows what not to do.. She could take me to csa or whatever its called now as when i signed on last year she 'could' see my bank statements and what i was earning and get alot more than the agreed payments per month now but as as cagger i would cause a stink like no other if she used my classified info at the council office (Im not a none paying Dad, I see my son 3 times week so pay less and pay for his xbox games.. Far more expensive lol ) Asked Rossendales numerous times now for name and court certificate and latest mail to them seems to have produced this back dated (not a copy)walking order today so he can cover his butt.. Will ask for and get copy's of standards from council tomorrow, Asked bailiff during a heated exchange for National Standards for Enforcement Agents (Thanks Kel) but he said he did not have a copy tp hand, said he would be in area today so i said great, post it through letter box.. Got the back dated walking order instead as mentioned

This looks like council do not pay and parasites are collecting there own fees as i paid online direct to council..

Well at least i can pull the ace from my sleeve here.. Well ish ! My ex wife works at local council and ive sent her a text saying that bailiff knocked when our son was at my home alone.. Gave her a quick run down and seeing as ive gave her a cheque for this months maintenance she may help me out.. Asked if i need an appointment to see CEO or can i just storm in and go off on one

I checked afterthatas in post here and account was zero

Thanks PT i see what your saying.. l Logged onto council website and paid what was said i owed Email recieved Dear Mr Eggy12, Thank you for your online payments! This email is your official Receipt of payment, so please keep this email for your records. Payment Reference: xxxx Payment Date: 22/10/2009 Payment Time: 13:09 Payment Method: Delta Payment Breakdown: 1. Council Tax Reference: xxxxxx (870.71) Payment Total: 870.71 Direct Debit, the easy way to pay, Set It and Forget It, A mandate is a mouse click away, http://www.xxxxx.gov.uk/counciltaxdirectdebit Regards, xxx Borough Council VAT No: xxxxx

My armoury for tomorrow and for any future events is the letter dropped through my letter box on the 17th Feb (see post 34) Breakdown of charges http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/scan0005.jpg along with http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/eggytwelve/Rossendales/scan0001-1.jpg Followed with todays "back dated" (3 weeks) letter posted today Walking order 1st side http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/eggytwelve/scan0002.jpg Along with recorded message from bailiff wanting to come to arrangement after getting email asking for name of bailiff and what court certified at ! 8th March 2010, 16:52 #37 (permalink) eggy12 Basic Account Holder Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Cagger since : May 2006 Posts: 124 Re: rossendales/Council tax pain in the rear Will this suffice ? After receiving your reply to my request for a charges breakdown and screenshot of my account, I would like to ask what goods were levied and why there was no notice of seizure of goods and inventory left at the time of the alleged levy. I now also require the name of the baillif that caried out the levy and what court he was certificated at on what date. May I remind you about the "The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992" as you are bound by it; The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992 Distress 45.—(1) Where a liability order has been made, the authority which applied for the order may levy the appropriate amount by distress and sale of the goods of the debtor against whom the order was made. (2) The appropriate amount for the purposes of paragraph (1) is the aggregate of— (a) an amount equal to any outstanding sum which is or forms part of the amount in respect of which the liability order was made, and (b) a sum determined in accordance with Schedule 5 in respect of charges connected with the distress. (3) If, before any goods are seized, the appropriate amount (including charges arising up to the time of the payment or tender) is paid or tendered to the authority, the authority shall accept the amount and the levy shall not be proceeded with. (4) Where an authority has seized goods of the debtor in pursuance of the distress, but before sale of those goods the appropriate amount (including charges arising up to the time of the payment or tender) is paid or tendered to the authority, the authority shall accept the amount, the sale shall not be proceeded with and the goods shall be made available for collection by the debtor. (5) The person levying distress on behalf of an authority shall carry with him the written authorisation of the authority, which he shall show to the debtor if so requested; and he shall hand to the debtor or leave at the premises where the distress is levied a copy of this regulation and Schedule 5 and a memorandum setting out the appropriate amount, and shall hand to the debtor a copy of any close or walking possession agreement entered into. I also ask for a copy of your complaints procedure as I note from your records I have paid for 2 visits when in fact the Liability order was paid 'In Full' after the first visit and before the second and I am awaiting a refund for £18 due to myself for your mis-handling of this case along with an offer of compensation for my "Distress". A copy of this e-mail will be sent to XXXXX Borough Council to be held on file and will be used should it be if necessary to take this matter further. Eggy12

Online council tax statement I Owe the council nothing Im going in tomorrow to stamp my feet about this, apart from the obvious what else should i complain about ? Eggy12

My old car in drive ! This was done on the same visit as the van arrival apparently, In the message he left on my answer phone earlier he did state that his lowering the van visit charge if i accept and pay a full and final £84ish

My old car in drive !

Envolope http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/eggytwelve/scan0001.jpg Walking order 1st side http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/eggytwelve/scan0002.jpg Walking order 2nd side http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/eggytwelve/scan0003.jpg

Two ticks, just scanning

oh just read the dates.. 17th of Feb its dated !!!!!!!

Oh how things change lol.. Just had someone tap at the door but did not answer as playing a new PS3 game Left Walking possession order in letter box ! I take it he must be trying to cover his butt ?

LOL Just had a call from bailiff and left message on phone, lost count of the times he said "we just want to resolve this matter" and his now... Going to reduce the bill to £84 as a gesture of good will !!!! How nice of him, and could i ring him back to make a payment to resolve this matter.. I will ring back when ive got the info i requested thanks

Not a prob HW.. We all have bad days Bailiff's was yesterday pmsl 17th February 2010, 20:32 #3 (permalink) hallowitch Classic Account Holder send him £24.50 1st visit fee tell him that under The council tax (administration and enforcement ) regulations 1992(amended ) regulation 45 charges connected with distress this is all you are legally entitled to pay However if they want more fees to send you a screenshot of your account after you have received this and depending on what it contains will depend on what further action you will take regarding the remainder of the fees they are trying to collect you may have to pay a 2nd visit fee of £18 I listened to you .. Thanks for your help and have a beer/wine on me Eggy12

Will mention the last next time as the scraps of paper have never been sealed, maybe its because his used all his salava spewing brown stuff to the last unlucky honest person on his list.. Watch This Space