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    • You're right of course, just jarring when an actual man child is knocking on my door so close to the end. Anyway, I'll keep this thread updated if ever any exciting does actually happen. Thanks again.
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cheers Snowy, I will probably write in to the Police to clarify the position with the first NIP to my son, then we will go about responding to the most recent NIP.

 

I have myself been to court in the past on a S172 summons and basically the Prosecutor wouldn't accept the fact that I couldn't recall who the driver was on one particular occasion because at the time there were three people driving over the period of the alleged speeding offence.

 

I represented myself armed with a copy of Wilkinson's but that failed to impress.

 

Basically the magistrates on that occasion also didn't believe me and I was fined £ 200 with £100 costs and 3 penalty points. You can see why we don't want it to go further !

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cheers Snowy, I will probably write in to the Police to clarify the position with the first NIP to my son, then we will go about responding to the most recent NIP.

 

I have myself been to court in the past on a S172 summons and basically the Prosecutor wouldn't accept the fact that I couldn't recall who the driver was on one particular occasion because at the time there were three people driving over the period of the alleged speeding offence.

 

I represented myself armed with a copy of Wilkinson's but that failed to impress.

 

Basically the magistrates on that occasion also didn't believe me and I was fined £ 200 with £100 costs and 3 penalty points. You can see why we don't want it to go further !

In which case I suggest that you get your son to reply asap otherwise he might be on the receiving end of a summons. His 28 days expire on Wednesday so I doubt there's time for any further communication.

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Agreed. and a S.172 is six points and lots of money. there is no loophole re Audi being the rK, its only the FIRST NIP that has the 14 day rule. who the recipient (RK) is is irrelevant. Do not fall foul of S.172.

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An update to the NIP saga:-

 

Having written back to the Police Camera Enforcement Office to

 

1. Clarify that the NIP sent to my Son was replaced by the second one

2. Actually respond to the second NIP and having signed it and stated that the driver was unknown, with an attached explanatory letter

3. To ask for video evidence

4. To ask for clarification whether the original NIP had been sent to the RK within 14 days (which we suspected had actually been effective)

 

...the responses were thus:-

 

1. No answer regarding my Son's NIP

2. They returned a copy of the blank NIP (the second one to which we had actually replied) and requested that it was completed !!!!

3. They state that the video evidence "will not assist you in that identification"

4. They confirmed the date of the original NIP.

 

So, where next?

 

We have returned the NIP addressed to the correct RK (i.e. my Wife), and it was signed and it stated that the driver was not known and that all due diligence had been exercised in those enquiries.

 

Having replied to said NIP already, why do we have to complete and return a further one (also addressed to the Wife) ??

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