Genesis, early Peter Gabriel always been my favourite. 'Lion lies down on Broadway' especially. Sorry to those of you who misinterpreted what I said. For the record I'm not a 'troll' but it's your right to see me how you want if it makes you sleep easier. My point was that of course Ingeus/A4e/Seetec are filled with cretins who are trying to meet targets, but some of them are just trying to get through the day doing there best. Same as you or I did when we had jobs. It's seems too many people on here have been dealt a bum hand (for whatever reason) and are now lashing out looking for someone to blame. WP is easy target to blame. But we only get on work programme after a whole 365 days of signing on (unless rules have changed?) So, if you can't find a job to avoid it then maybe you DO need help? It's easy to just give up and say 'Oh I feel sad and nervous thinking about my life' so let's claim ESA with Anxiety & Depression and avoid the whole sh*tstorm. Fair enough. But I imagine the people who are struggling with oxygen masks and cancer being denied a spare room to store their stuff might feel a bit aggrieved there's not enough money left because you can't 'man-up' and face the unfairness of the world like we all must? See it is trolling if you must, but I hand on heart mean no malice or make personal attacks at anyone. I got through two years at Ingeus and hated it. But I got through it by realising what they wanted. All these Data Protection issues, or letters worded wrongly so I don't have to go: 'oh I won't sign a form in case the CIA kick down my door down' or 'I'm going to wear a tinfoil hat because you sent me a letter without an EU symbol at the top', etc.... I mean, really? Of course none of us have to engage with WP or even turn up to sign on. No one is forcing us. BUT... like with any job, if you want the money you have to play by their rules. Simples. (PS, respect due to you Antone for not just deleting my previous post because it hit a nerve with a few regulars).

Yes, god forbid any of you ever used your energy to actually GET a job. Much better to just spend your time being keyboard warriors and bitchin'. Don't get me wrong, I hate Ingeus as much as the rest of you - I went through two years of their crap. But I understood that if I want the free money then I have to jump through their hoops. Why do you all seem so determined to find any excuse or broken protocol to bring them up on as if you are some sort of chess master? I honestly don't get it. If you don't like WP then get a job. If you can't get a job then ask yourself why? If it's because you are 'suffering' from 'Anxiety&Depression' then claim ESA and get out. If you can't convince your GP into writing you this New Age 'bad back' sick note, then either sign off or get a job? Oh how outrageous, how dare I suggest such a thing. No, much better to slag off the system... But take an honest look in the mirror and think whether this negative energy could be better spent turned into a positive energy working for you? Bottom line is if you don't want to sign all the data protection forms, or turn up to interviews where people try to help you find work - then don't. All good. But if you expect money for nothing then, hmmmm, play the game. What's so outrageous about that? (Either way, don't worry, once 'Antone' gets wind of this post it will be deleted. Just as sure as a DWP mandatory reconsideration. We are not a democracy. No free speech here lol

2 weeks? Oh god. I was hoping for 5 days. OK, thanks for the info.

Agree totally on that point mate. All I'm saying is, if you're on ESA it shows you are unwell, so you should focus on getting yourself well and not taking on battles such as bringing down the DWP single-handed, etc There's a brilliant quote (well I think it's brilliant anyway) from Nelson Mandela - (and I'm paraphrasing) - 'Before you try to help other people, in misery ; make yourself as good as you can be, then you can truly help them, in power.

'Absolutely LIVID'? I'm sure you'll take this post the wrong way as you seem determined to wage a one-man-war against the DWP and its subcontractors Essexmat. But honestly, a word to the wise mate. You'll send yourself insane expecting a system designed for the millions to care about an individual with a grudge. This Ingeus woman MIGHT be an evil servant of the Matrix sent to destroy your peace of mind, or... OR, she may have just been a conscientious employee trying to do her best and genuinely pleased that you are out-and-about when you have such crushing anxiety and depression that many other people couldn't even answer the door. I'm not judging you. But I must say you seem a very intelligent person - what a pity you spend it fighting the system and always looking for fault/opportunities for self-righteous outrage. Rather than accepting help when it's offered, ignoring it when it's not needed. I'm sure you'll just get your knickers in a twist over this post, but really. Chillax mate. Life's too short. Stop trying to look for excuses to get annoyed with the DWP and focus on getting yourself well (and employed).

Hi, I've been a lurker on this forum for a while now. Excellent advice, so I was hoping you could help me. I applied for a budgeting loan a few weeks ago and got a letter on Saturday morning saying I'd been successful and the offer. I signed letter and posted back lunchtime post Saturday (14/9). Anyone know when the money will actually credit my account as I'm trying to juggle some serious crapola here. Thanks.