Thanks for your advice - this is exactly what I thought... here's what happened though. Warrant expired as confirmed by TEC. She wrote to council enclosing a postal order for the full amount (£82). they rejected it as it was still with the bailiffs, so postal order was collected in person yesterday. Bailiffs confirmed yesterday that the warrant is still live (beyond it's expiration date) and a payment agreement was entered into a few days before the expiration date (very thin evidence for this - its debatable). They also said they can take a car via apnr This is the challenge we now face. Does your website not advise that since the new rules came into force the 1 year expiry thing no longer applies nor does the direct payment to the council. Am I missing something?

It has definitely expired according to TEC... what next then? Oh dear. Does the warrant really last forever? BTW, the only thing they can do is nab her car, which is on lease purchase, so simply an inconvenience... She's anxious so I'm keen that she does what is best for her. Of course paying the £480 is totally wrong since she was never aware of the fine in the first place. thankyou

I agree, the only reason she didn't do that originally was because she found out so close to the year anniversary that it seemed pointless (TEC had confirmed warrant would expire a week after her call). I've just seen the communications and it would appear that she did, sort of, ask for help/offer to pay the PCN which they responded to with their offer. It is probably enough to count as an agreement Do you have any advice as to exactly how to fill in the the out of time and stat dec? I know that it can make the difference between it being rejected or not. Also, she has't yet disclosed her new address... would you advise this or better to use another for the out-of-time? it would be tragic for the oot to be rejected and the bailiffs to come after her at the new address. hope this makes sense, any advice would be greatly appreciated

ah, ok, background: PCN for loading bay (council) CCTV so nothing attached to vehicle moved house and sold car before anything came through the post, so unaware of it entirely contacted by email by bailiff and then the above happened

this just happened to a friend. .. warrant was issued 12 months ago to old address AFTER the new rules came into force. the 12 month period has just elapsed, my friend expecting that "it's safe to come out now" contacted the bailiffs by phone. Note, my friend was found and contacted about a month ago only by email and no evidence has been provided so far to confirm the debt was valid, they sent each other a couple of emails mainly disagreeing with each other. It turns out that one of the emails sent by the bailiff (2 days before 12 months passed) was their idea of a "payment agreement".. . of course this was never acknowledged of agreed to by my friend and the exact wording I am waiting to find out, can the bailiff simply create this payment agreement without agreement from the alleged debtor? The result is that the bailiff has reset the 12 month clock with a simple email. Please someone tell me this isn't right. Thanks