Hi all, I get frustrated when people dont let you know the outcome of their situation, so I thought I would bring everyone up to date with mine. Had my DH this morning @ 9.45. it lasted until 11.45 included break. long and short of it I got 12 months final written warning, which I am happy about(at least I still have a job) I would like to thank everyone for their advice and support, and to wish others good luck in their quest for fairness. again thanks Mark

hi, no not at all its about time, date(14th),venue who will attend,and the information that i have received etc. NO 'evidence'! thanks mark

hi all, i need to clarify a few things, 1 - I am not a member of a union(mores the pity) 2 - I only quoted part of the DH invitation letter, there is more in it, but nothing more about the allegation. 3 - The letter does state it is a disciplinary hearing. thanks again Mark PS By nature I am a quite person.

thanks for the replies, No i dont think my doctor thinks i am a danger, at least he has never shown signs of concern.ie he never asked me to clarify any of my statements. As far as the assessment by a psychiatrist and the anger management, I think that would be a far request by my employer, so the answer is yes to both. @smokejumper-"did they not also state the exact allegations and supply copies of all documentation they will be relying on." in my DH invitation letter, its wording seems unclear it states "the hearing will be held to discuss your alleged conduct, where the counsellor, X has reported to the business that at you appointments with her, she has interpreted your conversations as a potential threat to the business and certain employees of the business.One of the purposes of the disciplinary hearing will be to decide what, if anything, you said to the counsellor and what effect that has on you future employment" I have asked for the counsellors notes( through HR, as i am not allowed to contact her), HR told me, the counsellor is unwilling to give the notes to myself or the business (unlawful I think). These notes where not written during my sessions,but presumably straight after. HR restated that I am NOT to contact the counsellor. I was told I have ALL the evidence, that been notes on the conversation between the counsellor and HR(initial allegations) and the notes taken at my suspension meeting.thats all I have received. thanks Mark

thank you for your advice emmzzi, I have seen my gp again, finally have a date for my DH. What they seem to want, is for me to prove that I have not said anything threatening. How can I do this? Really its the counsellors word against mine. They will not let me have any witnesses or any statements. They wont allow me to contact my counsellor to get copies of my session notes. also I have a strong belief they have more 'evidence' which they are not forwarding on to me. It would seem not investigation has taken place, as i have not received any documentation since my suspension. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions to help a very very desperate person? thanks in advance mark

hi ericsbrother, I have already looked into this side of the argument. if a counsellor believes you are a danger then they can break confidentiality, without permission. she has told my work i could be a danger to 2 others and also to the business itself. I do think whatever I said to give her concerns, she should of probed further rather than jumping to conclusions. The quotes I do remember were:- 'I hated these two people'.(which I never said, and THAT is hardly a threat) 'When I leave, I will leave with a bang'.(ok that could be a threat, but again I never said it) 'when I leave, I will receive a payout'.(this was the only thing, that was even close to what I said.......) if you read my OP, where I mention raising my voice at the HR rep.Work really played on this and made me think they would fire me. I said if they fire me , I would take it to tribunal and I would win. I still have not heard anything further from work, and do not know whether to take the 'constructive dismissal' route. could anyone give some advice on that? Mark

she did tell me, scarletpimpernal, but it took her 3 weeks to inform work. I should point out I never said I hated the nurse or HR rep. but that was part of her report to work. mark

hi orfoster i do understand my bad titling of the thread. to clear up what could be a bit of confusion there is a nurse (employed by the company) and also a counsellor(payed by the company but independent) it is the counsellor who reported to work "i hated' the nurse and the HR rep. and that is why, she believes i could be a threat. I have worked there for about 5 years and never had a problem, it is a food manufacturing co. I cant really see what type of investigation they could have, other than to question me and then question the counsellor. what I find strange is my last meeting with the counsellor was Nov 29th. But this was only reported to the company last week. thanks Mark

yes the meetings were confidential in the most part, but I was told at the first meeting that certain things could be shared with the company and/or police. as far as the nurse goes, while I was off, her concern was only to get me back to work asap - this she told me on more than one occasion. thanx for the reply mark

Hello, I've returned to work yesterday, only to walk through the door and get suspended, the reasons given, were for allegedly making threats to the business and/or individuals. So let me give as much background as I can, I was off work for nine weeks with depression. My employer insisted I saw the oc.nurse, attended 'meetings' about my situation (with a manager) and also offered the services of a counsellor,which I agreed to. I met the nurse a few times, and in one the the meetings(with my manager and a member of HR), I refused to see the nurse anymore, because I felt she was hampering any recovery. I was told this was not possible and I would have to see her again. My manager offered to go with me (at my next app), I agreed purely to have a witness, I was immediately challenged on why I needed some there. Once returning to work(after my sickness) I have seen the nurse a few time and feel she is now being supportive. Before my sickness I had booked holiday's (which ended up been the last week of my sickness) I was informed by HR, because I had not cancelled holidays, I had to take them as holidays and not sick pay(even though my sick note covered this time).I did lose my temper (by raising my voice, but not shouting). I eventually wrote a grievance letter and had my holidays reinstated. Obviously these two instances where 'upsetting' to me and I discussed it with the counsellor, I have had 6 sessions with her - 2 of which where at her house. We were supposed to schedule 2 more, but because of christmas these have been sidelined. she is the one who has made these allegations against me, for threats against the nurse,HR rep. and the company. But at no time did I indicate harm to anyone/anything, yesterday I was read quotes, I has supposedly made, but Its not what I have said! I am not expecting to keep my job, as Its her word against mine. But is there anything I can do? other than just sit back and wait. thanks in advance MARK