I did ask HMRC but they said they couldn't supply copies of the grounds of appeal, etc without the consent of the taxpayer, VCS. Fair enough, I suppose. VCS certainly weren't going to show it willingly. They were asked to do so when they referred to the application for PTA in a witness statement filed by their Ms Coates in another matter [where they were being sued for the return of monies extracted through clamping] - but, predictably, they refused to provide a copy. The dodgy bunch of fekkwits even refuse to supply the other side with copies of the contracts they have with the landowner. They'll bring them along to court to show the judge but won't provide advance disclosure to the litigant on the other side. If you have a look at the VCS v Ibbottson transcript you'll see Miss Coates says:- "We manage the car park on behalf of Wickes, our client. I have got a copy of our agreement. Obviously, it was not sent to Mr Ibbotson ." [at page 2, lines 24 and 25] Obviously?? Well, obviously you wouldn't want to provide prior disclosure of a relevant document to someone you were suing, would you. They are devious, greedy f*ckers. Obviously.

Does your little birdie have any info on why a seemingly very late appeal/application for permission to appeal was allowed through? Although the order of the Upper Tax Tribunal was made on 2 May 2012 VCS did not file their Appellant's Notice until 16 July 2012. I did ask the Civil Appeals Office about this back in August but their Mr Tai, Case Progression Manager said only:- "We understand the order made on 2nd May 2012 but not available until 18th June 2012. The appellant's notice was filed on 16th July 2012 therefore it was in time." I did query how this could be the case when VCS clearly knew about the UTT's decision in May. It was being quoted at them and used against them as soon as it was published on t'internet (which I think was on or about 16 May 2012) - and the judgment itself says that it's release date was 2 May 2012. Ultimately I was told that Deputy Master Bancroft-Rimmer said "This application was set down in time" . . . .but no explanation beyond Mr Tai's statement about the order not being available until 18 June 2012 was given. And neither would the Civil Appeals Office provide a copy of the appellant's notice or the grounds of appeal.

Tried to PM you with some detailed advice but couldn't send it as haven't got 30 posts. Sent it via one of the mods (Bankfodder) asking that he send it on to you. Don't know if you'll get it. Don't really want to post it here as I'm acutely aware thatr NCP/their lawyers will be watching. Thing is my PM to Bankfodder isn't showing up in my sent items If you're on MSE or Pepipoo I could PM you on there. Not sure if you were/are the same guy as Matt246 on MSE forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4059877