That's great, thank you. Exactly the post I was after. I guess the only real unknown is the timescale that the council wil take further and more serious action. Thanks for all the advice.

So I guess no one actually knows what might happen? It's strange as I'm guessing it must have happened a number of times over the years.

Ah right, I understand we all have Liability Orders against us and these don't ever expire. But what will happen down the line if this debt goes unpaid - will it result in a criminal conviction further down the line? Does anyone have any information on previous cases? Appreciating all the information.

Right, so if left unpaid then we can guarantee that at some point all of us will be charged in court and receive a conviction? Sorry just clarifying but it's pretty handy to know.

Good advice thanks, will make that call... Can you elaborate on 'expired'? What that means exactly and what implications it has... I take it it doesn't actually expire just by the fact you've placed it in '...'!

Just seeking some information regarding a court liability order that six of us have against our name dating to an unpaid council tax bill in 2005. A bailiffs has all of our names but at the moment is only trying to find me, (and not particularly successfully, so I'm not worried there) but I had heard that the time you want to start worrying is when the Bailiffs pass it back to the council and then the council take it on to the next step. Can this involve criminal charges being brought? Any advice gratefully received... L.

Thanks for the responses... We/I do have a liability order for the debt against me unfortunately... And apparently my name is the only one Newlyn have for this account, which is nice of the council! I am in contact with (most) of the others, but they are obviously not quite as keen to pay as I am... May have to get as much as I can out of them and cough up the rest myself I guess.

Hello folks, Just looking for some advice over a letter I have dated 24/2/12 from Newlyns that I've only just picked up from a previous address... It's over an unpaid council tax bill that while undisputed my name is the only one they're chasing of six people. Letter states that Bankruptcy proceedings are imminent, although I've just spoken to them and they say that the proceedings haven't yet been started by the council... Don't really think I want to go bankrupt over this, am I going to have to just bite the bullet and pay up? Was hoping it was going to disappear but this seems unlikely, debt is from 2005... Cheers all.

Related update... Can Bailiffs charge for a visit at an address they know I no longer reside at?? They're threatening to do so... Many thanks.

Thanks for all the info, it's all beginning to make a little bit more sense now... If it does turn out I was a tenant at the time of the bill would anyone be able to recommend a best course of action? This would obviously mean that no correspondence would have been received about this debt at the address although it would be our word against theirs. Just wondering if there is an end in sight managing to avoid years of bailiffs deciding to give it another go at getting their money. Kudos to those who do it but it's a lot of time invested and I currently live with girlfriend and flatmate so there are others to consider also... Ploddertom - Thanks for that, will get that info. The Landlord never informed the council who moved in and out it was always left up to us to do that and sort out bills/CT accordingly. I would have told when I moved I'm just not sure when that was right now. And yes, the council have six names on the bill but I am the only one being contacted by the Bailiffs right now.

So they would have had to present this document to obtain the liability order? Do you know if it's possible to challenge this?

All six of us were living there at the same time. It was always our responsibility to sort out and pay council tax separate to the rent while we were there... Is there any other advice anyone has? It's going to be pretty tricky to prove that we weren't there, although I would have thought it would have been equally as tricky to prove we were there with the contracts we had not being renewed properly every year. Also it seems strange that they can just take us to court and issue a liability order without first trying to contact us?! And then leaving it another six years before the bailiffs chasing in the debt. Sorry for the questions but does anyone know if a liability order issued in court can affect credit ratings? Thanks again. L.

Thanks guys... So the onus would be on me to prove that I had moved out, they wouldn't have to provide proof ie. a valid contract that I was living there to get the liability order? And am I right in thinking that even though the council have six names on the bill, I am singularly liable for the full amount in the eyes of the bailiffs? And would you have any ideas how I could go about finding out if the liability order was suspect? Thanks again! L.

Hi all, Possibly a bit of a strange one, I recently collected some post from a property I had recently vacated to find a removal notice dated 5th Dec. From a couple of phone calls to the bailiffs and Hounslow council I managed to ascertain that the debt is for £786.04 and is for council tax owed for the period Apr - Nov 2005. A liability order was issued in court on 28th June 2006. Now this is absolutely the first contact that anyone has made about this debt including Hounslow Council themselves, so it seems strange that I am being pursued for it over six years later. I was initially going to go down the statue barred route with the debt being older than six years but wasn't certain as to whether that was still possible after a liability order had been given and it was being handled by debt collectors. Other information: The council have six names on their bill liable for the amount but I seem to be the only one to be contacted at the moment. (am in contact with all the others) Contracts were never properly renewed at the property and I need to check but I'm pretty sure that I moved out before the bill date but does that even matter once the bailiffs have their grubby dishonest little mitts on it? The Bailiffs are Newlyn, I have contacted the office and also the bailiff on my case. He isn't on the certificated register but would need to check name spelling before I'm sure. They have a phone number for me but not my current address. Any help would be massively appreciated! Peace! L.

Thanks for the advice so far... Will check that there are two signs on the entrances to the CPZ, would really appreciate any other advice on loopholes to investigate if possible. Possibly to do with the time between issuing the ticket and towing? This isn't clear on the ticket. Will also be writing to my MP I think. If we were ruled by common sense I would be fairly confident but we all know that'''s laughably far from the truth! Thanks in advance.

Much appreciated chaps, sounds like exactly the sort of stuff I need...

Hello folks, Stumbled upon this site searching google and it seems like a good source of knowledge and wisdom on such matters. So here goes... The offence was in Reading Lane, Hackney according to the PCN from 21:34 - 21:36. I came back at around 11 to discover the car gone. I was parked on a single yellow line on a quiet side street. There are residents bays adjacent that cover up to 11pm, I had just assumed that I would be ok on a single yellow. There are no signs at all in relation to the parking restrictions, the only sign at all is one small one that reads "no loading" and refers to a strip of double yellow lines that starts near to where I was parked. What makes it even more ludicrous is that the pound is literally half a mile down the road. And the release fee was £265. Actually unbelievable. If anyone has any advice on how to approach this I would really appreciate it, I've had good success with standard PCN's but I'm assuming it's a hell of a lot harder to get your money back off them. It's obvious profiteering, the fine is in no way in line with the severity of the offence, and I'm sure there must be something I can do about this! Thanks! Laurence.