Almost everyone I know says students are lazy, spend their money on beer and drugs, how would you like it if we all said we now what you are like? You didn't pay your fare, they are just doing their job. If you are a student, you ought to know how to do research. Judges don't sit in Magistrates Courts, you have Magistrates, who are ordinary people, and they will use common sense.

I checked again, the clock still hasn't been repaired. There wasn't as much litter as before, but I did look around the station while I was there today. Lots of peeling paint, and the fences are rusty. It really does need a good going over.

Just thinking about it, I have seen some 'security' on c2c, but some of them look more scared than I am, small men, with yellow jackets. Then there is one I have seen, all tattoos on his knuckles, looks like a yob. I only use the trains in the daytime, but even then, Basildon can be a frightening station. Louts jumping over the gates, don't care who is in the way. There is a lift, but I won't get in it.

I went to use one of the 'Help Points', but I wouldn't touch the button, some pleasant person has spat on it. I just stood around with some other people until a train arrived. I wish my station had a tall man on the platforms, might make me feel safer.

Not in my nature to throw anything. But I do make a reasonable sausage toad. The OP sounds like the sort of talk I hear over Sunday dinner, I normally get told to stay out of arguments that I don't understand, and I am afraid that I really don't understand this one. It seems like a Barrister has given advice, and other people have given advice on here, and the OP just wants to keep on going, when it is his daughter that is in the middle of this, not him. I think if the Barrister thought that the case stood a chance, he would have grabbed the chance to make money out of London Underground. I guess I have missed the point.

I know that I don't know much, and what I do know is more to do with making a decent Yorkshire than law, but I have read this carefully. To be a litigant in person, do you not have to be one of the parties in the action? The OP was not accused, and did not suffer any of the consequences. It is up to the daughetr to take action, isn't it? Should I stick to eggs andflour?

I am always right! When do these surveys happen? I have never been asked by anyone? Mind you, I only use the trains once a week or so.

I had to get an early train today. There were not many people on it, but they all seemed to have their feet on the seat. They were all sorts of people, builders, men in suits, one woman in what looked like a nursing uniform. And all those dumped papers. Why do people not take their rubbish with them. Perhaps c2c should ask Merseyrail where to get some of those bullies to make people behave properly.

I know most of you blame fare dodgers for losses to the railways, and i know that locally it is the theives who keep stealing the cable, but how much money do the railways waste on silly gimmicks like clocks that don't work? Where they are placed, they didn't really stand a chance of lasting long, there is no cover over the hands, so they can be reached at and damaged. Do the people that put these things up live in the real world?

I know that a lot of people on here moan about the ticket inspectors. I do have to say that my local line has some lovely ones, I know a couple retired, but they were both gentlemen, very helpful. Several times, some of the older men inspectors have carried my shopping for me, but then, I suppose as I always have the right ticket, they have never had to have words with me.

I find that the railway people are a very mixed lot. Some lovely people, who are helpful and pleasant to talk to, but some who are just rude and lazy. There is one who sometimes works at the stations I use, I don't know where he is supposed to work, he seems to be at several of the stations that I go through. He is dirty looking, needs a shave, and if he has to get out of his chair to open the gate (I often seem to have a lot of shopping), he 'tuts' at you. Normally, he just sits there reading the paper. He is only about 20, I suppose. If he were my boy, I would tell him to shake his ideas up.

I wish that someone would come and prosecute all the people who put their feet on the seats on my line. Why should I have to put up with getting my clothes dirty? And it isn't 'yobs', it is all those city boys on their way home. Maybe they are just yobs in suits.

Well! I went to Basildon today, and the area outside the station had been cleared up. Still about half a dozen bits of litter, but still an improvement. Sadly, not the embankment along the sttaion, still all manner of rubbish. And the clock is still stuck.

I don't suppose that Draconian has ever walked across the grass at an army base and been spotted by the RSM. Standards of acceptble behaviour are explained in very great detail during basic training. For someone who was 'lost for words', he managed to find a few misplaced ones.

Maybe, just maybe, the boys who are fighting, and sadly in some cases dieing, would like to be able to sit on a seat without getting their trousers dirty because someone has put their feet on it.

Yes, asking the perpertrators is one answer, but the area looks like a giant open air dustbin. It needs to be tidy, then some of the people who chuck their rubbish might stop, although knowing 'Basildon man', I doubt that they would all stop. But at least then, if it was tidy, and someone threw litter there, it would be reasonable to prosecute them for dropping litter. But the whole environment in that area is just yukky, when you get onto the station, there is peeling paint that you can't blame the yobs for, and the fences are rusty and awful.

Does anyone know why Lord adonis didn't remove the remaining franchises from NX when they handed back the east coast mainline?

I hope that Irish teaches children not to put feet on seats and not to tell lies.

Using a car is only cheaper if you already have one. When you take into account road tax, insurance and 'capital outlay', the train is often cheaper. My town is basically a car park, too many cars all over the place.

I had to go to Tilbury, no one chooses to go there, and the clock was stuck there, too.

I feel like I am banging my head against a wall. My local railway is filthy. I have read those other threads about who is to blame for making it filthy, but who is responsible for cleaning it up? My local station has an area outside, if you like, the gateway to my town. It is covered with discarded rubbish, beer cans, coke bottles and dirty nappies. There are big fat rats that wander about, and it is simply an eyesore. I spoke to the council. They said 'railway land'. I spoke to railway staff, they said 'Network rail', I managed to speak to someone from Network Rail who said 'station limits', down to the train company. I spoke to a cleaner, who said something, but not in a western European language. Where do I go next?

So how did they get the franchise?

I was annoyed today, standing outside Basildon Railway station, having a fag, checked the time on the clock outside the station, missed the train because the clock is wrong. Actually, it is stuck.