yep, and if it was that bad, why didn't the whole room put in a complaint? I've just rang my doctors and now i might not get an appointment before my boss wants me to return, i might just call in sick on wed anyway and attempt to get a sick note.

i've worked there about 2 1/2 years. i was thinking of getting signed off, i do get paid sick for 12 days, my partner wants me to phone my boss and tell him i don't think it's appropriate to come back. the complaint letters were grossly unfair, one of them actually stated my comments were 'a direct racial comment on the guys colour and creed??!?' the transcripts and interviews themselves were full of inconsistencys in my opininon, and the interviews, the questions asked were leading and throughout all of the 5 interviews conducted he never asked the same questions to each person so there is no continuity either.

What am i going to do about returning to work? If they've demoted me, and i disagree, and am going to appeal i can't go back when this is still in the air like this can i? doesn't going back to work effectively mean i'm accepting the outcome? i'm so worried about this? i don't know what to do??!!

no need to apologise, honey, i welcome all comments/advice.

this is how the conversation went in the meeting: Person 1: we need a santa claus to appear on the roof, but he needs to be electrically competent Me: well it can't be ***** then! (name removed) that's it that's all i said, and then at the disc my boss started on about perception of that! i got copies of the complaint letters and transcripts of recorded interviews with every one in that meeting about 5 days before the disc meeting.

let's put this back into perspective before we go off on a tangent I never actually used the term 'klutz' in the meeting or to anyone i've spoken to. I only used it on this forum as a quick and easy descriptive word of this fella's capability.

we're a smal firm, (8 persons) no HR, going to appeal the written warning and demotion, was thinking about a grievance as well. the appeal and grievance can be done at the same time as i have to appeal to his boss (the chairman of our board of directors) but my boss wants me back at work on the 23rd! and i don't think it's appropriate until the appeal is done and dusted, how can i face these people? they've effectively as a collective ruined my life as i'm also trying to get into the police as a volunteer and this is so incredibly damaging to me. is it worth consdiering getting a doctor to sign me off with stress??

I've had some problems over the last few months, i supervise the two guys, one of them hasn't hidden the fact that he'd like my job, and the other just likes to cause trouble. Also my boss has also bought in someone in a business support role, and decided it'd be good for her to get to know my job, this woman is a very good of friend of the bosses and i've now found myself being supervisor in name only, she's taken all of my duties, i don't do any of my supervisory duties anymore, so i think my comment in this meeeting is something they've used and latched onto and because my boss has no experience of the dis/griev procedures or has never conducted investigations etc. it's been flawed and it feels like they're succeeding in pushing me out.

it wasn't really explained but my boss mentioned, the HR policys and the perception of my comments.

yes, jokingly, a 'clutz' because i remember him at an event being asked to give these balloons on sticks out and taking more than he could carry and nearly dropping them all, i thought at the time if they put HIM on the roof, he would more than likely fall off or get electricuted or something. the two complainants, one is white, one is indian. (although born here) everyone else in the company is white. Although i believe there is more to this than meets the eye.

Hi philip, i'm not in any recognised trade union.

i made a jovial remark, my company wanted a santa claus to appear on the roof at an event, i joked that it 'couldn't be this particular fella' cos i remember how much of a clutz he was at the last event, apparently two of my team complained that this was racist (as this fella is also black) and then, when they investigated, everyone else 'felt' my comment was racist??? tell me where the racism is when i said 'it can't be ____' (name removed) this chap doesn't work for our firm and wasn't at the meeting.

hello, I've recently been accused of making a racist remark at a meeting, it ends up my manager sided with the complainants, i never used racist remarks and it's down to how my comment was interpreted, anyway, it's gross misconduct and i should have been fired but they gave me a final written warning and demoted me from my supervisor position (but i'll still take the supervisor salary?) after the disciplinary i want to appeal but my boss wants me back at work, i don't feel i can until the appeal has been heard and dealt with, because i still have to work with the two guys that complained and everyone else judging me. I'd very much like to clear my name at the appeal but don't feel it appropriate to return to work. any advice?