Hello Snap I got the same with a different Airport.. Here is where I started. There are plenty of posts in the same vein, so you need to do a bit of study It is not a fine

Hello. The contravention code "104 no stopping/to pick up /drop off in a restricted zone" does not feature in the list of contravention codes in the Service agreement/Contract. Another interesting feature is that on the contract on the first two pages and by the word COPY, is and hand written note saying "authenticated" with a signature, but nothing to say who or in what capacity they signed it. I will hang on to it until WS stage. Thank you

The claim form was dated 2nd Sept. Not filed defence yet. Not had an N180

Hello. I have been doing my research for the future. I have been looking at the service agreement/contract between VCS LTD and Southend Airport which was sent as a result of the CPR. I checked the companies named on the agreement (VCS and Southend Airport) with companies house on the government site . The Company number given for VCS Ltd on the agreement comes up as London Southend Airport Company Limited. And the company number given for Southend Airport Company Limited shows as belonging to East Midland International Airport Limited. Also at the top of each page it has "Contract no:/draftVCS-CCTV/AC/AS" Am I missing something here?

Hello Thank you That has cleared things a little for me. The witness statements were a bit confusing as the claim form does not mention Witness Statements. I have probably read every Airport post, and I kept seeing WS'S and could not workout when that happened, Got it now.

Hello. I could do with some more help please. I sent the CPR request and received the response which contained the agreement between Southend Airport and VCS which was signed by S. Simon and one Finance Director. Is there a case to refer to regarding the Contract requiring two signatures to be viable? I Found this under the companies Act. 2)A document is validly executed by a company if it is signed on behalf of the company— (a)by two authorised signatories, or (not clear to me if that is two from each company) (b) by a director of the company in the presence of a witness who attests the signature. (Not witnessed on the agreement). Do Elms or VCS have to provide me with further paperwork for me to counter? Or is the Particulars of claim on the Court Papers and the reply to the CPR request the extent of their evidence? They did not provide any Planning Permission documents and stated that they do not hold any other documents in this case and anything further should be requested from VCS. Seemed a bit odd to me as they are under instruction from VCS. The NTK continues to say that that “the Period of parking to which this notice relates is the period immediately preceding the time of event stated in this notice” but the PCN is for Stopping, is that of importance? Is there anything more substantial than the VCS signage is prohibitive and therefore not contractual. Or is that enough? thank you

The claim is From Elms, maybe they re negotiated?

Ok Great thank you, I will get on and do that today. I read in one post that simon had chucked Elms so I was surprised to see their name. I have not been near South end Airport lately. Hopefully I have to go that way next Sunday, so I will get some updated signage photos (and risk another PCN by stopping to read).

Hello. Well He has the Gonads. Court claim arrived from County Court Business Center With VCS being the Claimant and Elms Legal for sending Documents to. The claim form was dated 2nd Sept Particulars of Claim: 1. "The claim is for a breach of contract for breaching the terms and conditions set out on private land. 2.The Defendants vehicle ABC 123 was identified in the Southend Airport on 00/00/20 in breach of the advertised terms and conditions: namely stopping to pickup/drop off in a restricted zone . 3. At all material times the Defendant was the registered keeper and or driver. 4. The Terms and conditions upon entering private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and n in prominent locations. The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct. 5. The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the consequences of failure to comply, namely a parking charge notice will be issued , and the Defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability. 6. The Claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest " Amount claimed £160. Court Fee £35.00 Legal representative's cost £50 Total amount £245 As I understand the way forward and initial steps are to : Go to MCOL website and note the long gateway number, register as an individual. log in.select respond to a claim and select the AOS box . then using the details required from the claim form. Defend all Leave jurisdiction unchecked, click through to the end and exit. Then send a CPR 31.14 to elms using the template on CAG Hope that is still the correct procedure . Thank you

Another update. A "NOTIFICATION OF INSTRUCTION " From ELMS Legal arrived in the post. Threatening yet ANOTHER court action. It says all the usual things one might expect and .. " We have been instructed to recover the sum of £160 in respect of works done to recover an outstanding Parking Charge Notice (PCN) issued to the vehicle bearing the registration mark of for breaching the Terms and Conditions situated at Southend Airport " (Reg. mark not omitted ) I have plenty to say in a reply, but should I bother and if I do, Is there anything I should not say? This is starting to become annoying wasting time over this. TNX NN

I will take a look and get more up to date photos next time I am that way

These are the only signs visible to a driver entering the Airport and not entering the Parking areas. more of the same signs are attached to the railings facing a passengers side door. google_earth Pix.pdf

Just an update. Seems like the letter sorted it as I have not heard back from the parasites at VCS. For future victims, at the time of the no stopping incident; the only two signs advising no stopping belonged to Southend Airport Authority. So I do not see how VCS could ever win a case for no stopping as they do not have their own signage.

Hello Ok thank you. I will get Proof of posting and send it. I will keep all the evidence safe.

Thank you everyone for taking the time to help me. FTMdave thank you for the response letter I like it a lot. More to the point and giving nothing away. I will send it off and hope that will be the end of it. nn

Thank you for your help. As you can see I am not cut out for this computer lark! I will adapt the post 9 letter and put it up again.

Hello. Seems like they have woken up. The LBC has arrived along with a very detailed reply form, which unless I am advised differently I will not waste my time on. Can't believe they have the cheek to ask for so much information including a Standard Financial statement Section 4 of their reply form Box 1-1. "I need more documents or information". Would it be a good idea to ask them for proof of their authority from the owners of the Airport for imposing and collecting parking charges on their behalf. Seems to me to be a reasonable request from the recipient of a LBA letter from a company that is threatening Court Action. Surely without that authority that they have nothing? Or is it time to tidy up/improve the Simple Simon letter above? thank you NN Is the letter in the above ( post no. 9) ok to send ? anything to add / remove VCS PAPLOC.pdf

hello A quick update for future victims. Another final , final demand received, with big red writing !! I will continue to wait for either another final, final ,final, demand or the Letter Before Claim

Hello Ok, thank you for the assurance. I will carry on waiting for the letter before claim.

Hello. I was wondering if they will pass this on to a debt collection company? and how would I deal with them should they arrive on the doorstep. I am a bit worried about this as I am a tenant. Due to the way the house is laid out it is usual for callers to knock on the landlord"s door, rather than walk round the back of the house. For obvious reasons I don't really want my landlord to be thinking I am being chased for debts.

Thank you for that. Further ammunition should it be required. I will be back when and if the LBC arrives.. It is so annoying having to go through having to waste our time researching something many of us have no idea about and all the worry of whether or not we will end up in a Court. I can see how the predatory behaviour of these companies result in folk just coughing up, as it is an easier option than going through the alternative. Thankfully there are still some decent people left to assist those who do not like to be taken advantage of. Thank you

Thank you for your assurance. The trembling in my boots was tongue in cheek to be honest. They probably put a different hat on to be raised to the dizzy heights of the "debt management team" It made me laugh that I now have an account with them, maybe I should ask for an advance ! Still interested in DVLA giving out details when they should not.

Thank you so much for sorting out the upload/pdf business, much appreciated. The advice given is very reassuring, thank you. I was assuming as the letter had "the company intends to take you to Court" and it had all other relevant details that it was the LBC. I am trembling in my boots because " my account has been passed to our Debt Collection Team". I am not really sure how they can give me an account without my consent? During the research I read somewhere about someone who had taken DVLA to task over them inappropriately giving out the driver details, did anything positive come out of that? I could not find the outcome of that case. I am still totally astounded that VCS can operate a business that, at least in this case an outright and without question scam on the public. Incredible that in modern day society with all the consumer rules, regulations and laws that Parasites like the Pieman can operate with impunity , beyond belief!

Hello what appears to be the Letter Before Claim has arrived. I have got this far with the response. Dear Simple Simon With reference to your speculative invoice Ref VCS 0000 There is absolutely no intention of contributing to what must almost certainly be your healthy income by paying the above without substance claim. Conversely the next time your vehicle comes to a stop. if you would like to dip into your without merit income, please forward a cheque in the sum £160 to a Charity of your choice. I draw your attention to your original spurious invoice dated 22/02/2021 which states “REASON FOR CHARGE 104) STOPPING TO PICK UP/DROP OFF IN A RESTRICTED ZONE”. Thank you for your reference to Parking Eye v Beavis. Which may have had some relevance had the vehicle in question been parked. In the same manner, you may wish to refer to One Parking Solutions V Ms. W claim number F0HM9E9Z. As the case is more relevant, it would be more beneficial for your future victims to include that in favour of your current suggestion. I am sure your Debt Management Team could further their legal expertise by studying the case. As Southend Airport is not “relevant land” under the POFA it would appear that you have contravened the GDPR by obtaining information from DVLA without justification. Please provide evidence of authorisation (not an employee as in the One Parking Solutions V Ms. W ) that your are empowered to collect or issue charges of any kind on Southend Airport which is governed by it's own Bye Laws. If you commence legal proceedings, all and full costs will be sought including costs so far plus the current Court interest rate should it become applicable. If there is no response within 14 days the matter will be considered closed. ........................... I am a bit out of my depth here so any help on any further additions or removals is much appreciated. Not sure if it matters at this stage, but the identity of the driver has not been disclosed to the opposition. demand for Payment.pdf

Thank you. looks like some one did it for me, thank you as well. I would ever make it as a Solicitor