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quote=pda123;2680315]I just cancelled my 2 credit cards with RBS + Barclays.
I was not using them, RBS used more often but Barclay's had been £0.77 in credit for 14 months. They tried to get me to keep it open with different rates/offers etc (has anyone noticed how difficult it is to get your accounts closed?!)(
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The reason why they want you to keep it open is not because of any balance you might have on there,( they don't care about that) it is because of the granted facility ( via your signature) is their basis for money creation, ie they monatise it. so, if you have a 5k limit with a CC Company , they use that 5k and sell it off as a securitised Instrument It doesn't matter if you never use the card. Your signature created the facility which they use under their fractional reserve system . Hence, if you want to cancel your account your are canceling their underlying security !!! that's why they will offer you anything to keep it open. Best way to give it back to the banks is to CLOSE down as many CC accounts as you can,
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This helps. Send to any third party ! , as you will see, this includes a fee schedule, for charges YOU will make upon THEM for having to deal with their crap!!! The bit in red is only if you are sending to Solicitors -. modify this Notice to suit your own needs
sender name and address
sent by Registered mail
to Solicitors of/ or A N other debt collectors / 3rd party interlopers
Their address etc
FORMAL NOTICE
Re:
Dear Sir/Madam,
I have received your unsolicited letter dated xxxxx (copy enclosed()
I wish to clarify your position in this matter.
You are a third party intervener in this matter acting without authority, I DO NOT give you permission to interfere in my commercial affairs as you have no legal standing. We do not have a contract and any permission that you believe you may have from me is hereby withdrawn. If you believe that you have power of attorney to act on my behalf you are hereby fired and any consent that you believe you may have, tacit or otherwise, is hereby withdrawn.
As professional solicitors you well know that an affidavit address to a specific person with specific statements can only be rebutted point by point by the person so addressed who has personal first hand knowledge of it.
Which - means, in case you had not noticed, it was not addressed to you or your company.
It is neither judicial, nor is it a threat, nor is it proceedings. It has nothing to do with the you, the court or any judicial system as it is as stated above.
So your statements allegations, of abuse of court process, wasteful litigation etc., are in the light of the above - pointless.
I am now formally requesting that you cease all correspondence including but not limited to; letters, phone calls and text messaging.
I am familiar with the terms of Section 40 of the administration of Justice Act 1970, and the Protection from Harassment Act 1970 and I believe, should you continue contacting me after my request for you to cease your activity, that you will be guilty of harassment and blackmail and you will be in breach of these acts and you will be reported to the relevant bodies.
Please note that if you contact me by telephone, after a formal request not to, you will also be in breach of the Wireless Telegraphy Act (1949) and, as such I will report you to both Trading Standards and The Office of Fair Trading and take further note that continued telephone calls after the receipt of a request not to call may constitute a criminal offence under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003.
Finally, you do not, nor have you ever had, my permission to use or process my personal data in any way and pursuant to the Data Protection Act 1998, I hereby demand that you cease use of any and all data with regard to me and that you immediately destroy all of my data held on your records. You will confirm this action in writing to me within 14 days of receipt of this official request which is being sent to you registered mail. Failure to do so will result in a report being submitted to The Information Commissioner for Data Protection breaches.
Notwithstanding the fact that I do not, have not and will not consent to your interference in this matter, am I not correct is stating that any ‘contract’ that I might have with ( insert name of orig creditor) is governed by the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999?
Am I also not correct in stating that S1 Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 sets out the circumstances in which a third party may seek to enforce the terms of a contract?
As no third party was expressly identified by name as required under Section 1, Sub-sections 1 - 3 of the above Act you are not a third party to the contract and have no rights in this matter.
And;
Section 6. Section 1 confers no rights on a third party in the case of a contract on a bill of exchange, promissory note or other negotiable instrument.
You are therefore in serious breach of the common law Doctrine of Privity of Contract.
You will be deemed to have been served notice of my request and I will deem it served (3days) from the date of this letter. This has been sent by recorded delivery. I am advising you that any communications from you including but not limited to letters, phone calls and text messages received after this date will be recorded/noted with the intention of them being used as evidence.
Under the circumstances should you continue this approach I reserve the right to take appropriate Action.
Formal notice of fee schedule to XXXXX / DCA's /SOLICITORS
For unlawful unsolicited interference in my commercial affairs.
1 For each unsolicited phone call £100.00
2 For each unsolicited letter of harassment £100.00
3 For each letter that I have to write to XXXXXXXX due to unsolicited letter/s of harassment £200.00
4 For each letter I have to write to Information Commissioner`s Office regarding XXXXXXX’s unlawful letters of harassment £250.00
5 For each letter I have to write to the Office of Fair Trading £250.00
6 For each letter I have to write to .... whoever you deem
7 For each letter I have to write to Trading Standards £250.00
8 For each letter I have to write to the Police £250.00
9 For each court appearance £1000.00
10 For each phone call I have to make to the relevant bodies £75.00
(plus £300.00 per hour or part thereof £5.00 per minute)
11 For each and any legal counter claim £3000.00
This fee schedule effective from the date of this Notice and will initiate upon the receipt of any further unsolicited letters or communications from XXXXXXXXXXXXX.
Yours Faithfully,
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All Rights, Privileges and Powers Reserved Without Prejudice
Modify to suit your own personal needs! inc reducing the fee amounts if you think they are too high!
for further info, do research on below, this is the important section
Section 6. Section 1 confers no rights on a third party in the case of a contract on a bill of exchange, promissory note or other negotiable instrument.
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This helps. Send to a third party ! , as you will see, this includes a fee schedule, for charges YOU will make upon THEM for having to deal with their crap!!!
sender name and address
Registered mail
Solicitors of/ or A N other debt collectors
FORMAL NOTICE
Re:
Dear Sir/Madam,
I have received your unsolicited letter dated xxxxx (copy enclosed()
I wish to clarify your position in this matter.
You are a third party intervener in this matter acting without authority, I DO NOT give you permission to interfere in my commercial affairs as you have no legal standing. We do not have a contract and any permission that you believe you may have from me is hereby withdrawn. If you believe that you have power of attorney to act on my behalf you are hereby fired and any consent that you believe you may have, tacit or otherwise, is hereby withdrawn.
As professional solicitors you well know that an affidavit address to a specific person with specific statements can only be rebutted point by point by the person so addressed who has personal first hand knowledge of it.
Which - means, in case you had not noticed, it was not addressed to you or your company.
It is neither judicial, nor is it a threat, nor is it proceedings. It has nothing to do with the you, the court or any judicial system as it is as stated above.
So your statements allegations, of abuse of court process, wasteful litigation etc., are in the light of the above - pointless.
I am now formally requesting that you cease all correspondence including but not limited to; letters, phone calls and text messaging.
I am familiar with the terms of Section 40 of the administration of Justice Act 1970, and the Protection from Harassment Act 1970 and I believe, should you continue contacting me after my request for you to cease your activity, that you will be guilty of harassment and blackmail and you will be in breach of these acts and you will be reported to the relevant bodies.
Please note that if you contact me by telephone, after a formal request not to, you will also be in breach of the Wireless Telegraphy Act (1949) and, as such I will report you to both Trading Standards and The Office of Fair Trading and take further note that continued telephone calls after the receipt of a request not to call may constitute a criminal offence under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003.
Finally, you do not, nor have you ever had, my permission to use or process my personal data in any way and pursuant to the Data Protection Act 1998, I hereby demand that you cease use of any and all data with regard to me and that you immediately destroy all of my data held on your records. You will confirm this action in writing to me within 14 days of receipt of this official request which is being sent to you registered mail. Failure to do so will result in a report being submitted to The Information Commissioner for Data Protection breaches.
Notwithstanding the fact that I do not, have not and will not consent to your interference in this matter, am I not correct is stating that any ‘contract’ that I might have with ( insert name of orig creditor) is governed by the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999?
Am I also not correct in stating that S1 Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 sets out the circumstances in which a third party may seek to enforce the terms of a contract?
As no third party was expressly identified by name as required under Section 1, Sub-sections 1 - 3 of the above Act you are not a third party to the contract and have no rights in this matter.
And;
Section 6. Section 1 confers no rights on a third party in the case of a contract on a bill of exchange, promissory note or other negotiable instrument.
You are therefore in serious breach of the common law Doctrine of Privity of Contract.
You will be deemed to have been served notice of my request and I will deem it served (3days) from the date of this letter. This has been sent by recorded delivery. I am advising you that any communications from you including but not limited to letters, phone calls and text messages received after this date will be recorded/noted with the intention of them being used as evidence.
I recommend you actually read what is written here and I would suggest you take legal advice as it seems to me you could do with some.
Under the circumstances should you continue this approach I reserve the right to take appropriate Action.
Formal notice of fee schedule to XXXXXSOLICITORS
For unlawful unsolicited interference in my commercial affairs.
1 For each unsolicited phone call £100.00
2 For each unsolicited letter of harassment £100.00
3 For each letter that I have to write to XXXXXXXX due to
unsolicited letter/s of harassment £200.00
4 For each letter I have to write to ICO regarding XXXXXXX’s
unlawful letters of harassment £250.00
5 For each letter I have to write to the Office of Fair Trading £250.00
6 For each letter I have to write to
7 For each letter I have to write to Trading Standards £250.00
8 For each letter I have to write to the Police £250.00
9 For each court appearance £1000.00
10 For each phone call I have to make to the relevant bodies £75.00
(plus £300.00 per hour or part thereof £5.00 per minute)
11 For each and any legal counter claim £3000.00
This fee schedule effective from the date of this Notice and will initiate upon the receipt of any further unsolicited letters or communications from XXXXXXXXXXXXX.
Yours Faithfully,
______________
All Rights, Privileges and Powers Reserved Without Prejudice
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for those wanting to play catch up on the much much bigger picture, i suggest listening to this podcast ( or downloading it) as a starter!
BTW it is said that God created Man in his own image. with Commerce somewhere down the bottom of the pile. Why is it then that Corporations seem to have so much power & sway over us, when we as Sovereign human beings ( number 2 under God) are so much more that these fictions & money grabbers.! We have SO much more power then any legal fiction. Corporation etc.
We have the Power to say NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here is what you need to know about Mortgages! ALL Mortgages !~
A Mortgage is a form of Contract , only is is not a fair & just contract. Why not? .......
When a man or woman signs a (Mortgage) document, the funds for that "loan" are created there & then. In fact they are deposited into an escrow account where they stay for 3 years, if they are not claimed ( by the person who signed) then under the 3yr Maritime Salvage Act , someone claims them? Guess who that is? - were you told this? No? , ok That's Non Disclosure then . contract is null & void
Futhermore for a Contract to be enforceable in Law, it must fulfill certain
commonsense criteria. There are four of them, and they are designed to
make sure the promises are sufficiently explicit, such that neither Party
can later claim: “I wasn't told about that bit!”.
These components are:
1. Full Disclosure: Which means that each Party writes down exactly
what their promise comprises, and all the relevant circumstances, so as to
put it into the context they consider applicable. If one has any sense, any
necessary 'get outs' should be included within the Full Disclosure.
2. Equal Considerations: A Contractual Consideration is an ‘item of
value’. It may be money, or it may be an item. Both Parties must consider
the exchange to be equal in value.
(As we already know, ‘money’ is an illusion, and is nothing more
than an empty, meaningless IOU. Consequently most Contracts can be
shown to fail in this respect, if one has the will to do that. This is explained later.
One argument, when receiving a demand for money is:
“What do you want me to pay you with? Meaningless, empty-promise, worthless Debt Notes? Or do you want something of value, in which case you need to ask for it”).
Obviously for Considerations to be equal they cannot change, once
agreed. Thus any Contract employing variable Interest Rates is null &
void in Law. Accepting the validity of variable Considerations, and not
standing up against them, is precisely how so many people embroil
themselves in debt.
And, in any case – the funds to create 'Interest' forms no part of our Monetary Belief System. Or, to put this another way,
'Interest' is nowhere created, and consequently it is impossible to pay off
all loans, and impossible for everyone to stay out of bankruptcy. Those
who stay out of bankruptcy are doing so purely on the backs of those who
enter bankruptcy – purely because they were simply the first to grab
whatever was available. (Whether they realise this or not).
3. Lawful Terms and Conditions: Which, fundamentally, means that
there should be no mischief in the proposed agreements.
4. Mutual Intent: Which means 'some manifestation that each Party
intended to Contract'. This could be hand-written signature 'marks', or
can be 'conduct'. In other words if at least one of the Parties starts to do
what was promised. This is sometimes expressed as 'performance' - or, at
least, 'the start of performance'.
You have, probably without realising it, entered into many Contracts in
your life. And, as we shall see, most of them are null and void in Law,
because (even allowing for the small print) they fail on at least one of the
components 1, 2, 3 or 4.
The most important thing to realise is that no ‘small print’ can override
the fundamental aspects a Contract must fulfill in order to be lawful, and
therefore enforceable. ‘Invalid small print’ does not actually nullify a
Contract, but its provisions are irrelevant because they are unenforceable
in Law. Therefore any Contract that relies upon unenforceable small
print (for example variable Interest Rates) is – to all intents and purposes
null & void. But you have to say so. A Court will not say it for you
All mortgages are a fraud in factum as are all loans, credit cards etc!!!!
The United Kingdom is a corporation ( as seperate from the actul landmass) and has been operating in Chapter 11 Bankruptcy since the 1930's . And in Bankruptcy you can't pay a debt with a debt!
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Since most of us know that the entire system is fraudulent, has anyone raised this issue with their bank? What kind of response did you get?
Has anyone made any progress in getting loans written off etc?
0h yes, yes indeed , currently working on over half a million's worth between my friends & myself. using Contract law, their non disclosure, they provided nothing of substance & value, a signature created the funds etc. once you get into this, its the biggest rabbit hole ever !!!! talk about their fraud & their deception!!!!!! OMG
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Correct Charlie!
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more info here ( it's USA based) but our system Bank of England etc is the same ! we run the same [problem] system as our American Friends....
LESSONS FROM THE JAPANESE:
TIME TO REPLACE SOVEREIGN DEBT WITH SOVEREIGN CREDIT
Web of Debt - LESSONS FROM THE JAPANESE: TIME TO REPLACE SOVEREIGN DEBT WITH SOVEREIGN CREDIT
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Sorry, not got time for a discussion, I'm too busy stocking up with tins and batteries in my underground bunker.
S.
I understand, you are doing the same as quite a few Governments around the world!
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i think you mean, "item c/ we are ALL paying cash (because we can no longer get ourselves into MORE DEBT!!)hi nuke em!item b/ keep it in a bank? are you havin a larf or what?
which one would you suggest? cap one?, barclays? egg?
Cui Bono? work that out & you will have your answer
item c/ we are ALL paying cash (because we can no longer get credit!!)
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To quote dicky "yeah yeah yeah
meanwhile, in the real world we are trying to sort our debts out "
True, this is a debt forum and i guess most of us are all here 'cos of our "debts"!
Each one of us has to work out our own situation in the best way we can.
meantime can i offer this general advice for the yeah, yeah, yeah's on here , i.e
rickyd, the_shadow diddydicky Undercover-Elsa & Stornoway
a) whatever currency you posess, keep most of it in a bank
b) whatever stocks & shares you own, keep them all, do not sell them
c) Pay cash if possible, for everything you need/want
d) If you have valuables, old jewelry, precious metals etc that you are not using/don't want, sell them for cash, then put that cash into your bank
e) Watch MSM [main stream media] for key indicators of what is happening in the world today. Try to follow their guidance,
Thanks!
that's all for now
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Great thread, Im with nuke. I have spent many hours researching how money is made and nuke is spot on!
Money is created by our signature, and the gov admits it! someone done a freedome of info request & asked how money is made. I will try find the link.
Good, the more people that "get it" the better we all are !!!!!!!
97% of ALL money is borrowed into existance !
ie it never existed before a human's Autograph!
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Questions....
is your wife named on the alleged mortgage?
is your daughter under the age of 18 ?
i need more details on the alleged mortrgage
who is it with ?
how long ago did you take it out?
how many months are you in arrears?
Have they started repo proceedings yet?
do you have any equity in it?
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Hi. Haven't posted here in a while but no my circumstances have changed - I need some more advice. Basically I'm at point where I've decided that trying to keep hold of the house is just not worth it. My credit status is wrecked, I'm going to be at retirement age in 6 yearas, my job is a tempory contract anyway and the term of my interest free Morgage ends in 4 years. Basically I've found a rental house on favourable terms. What I really need is some good practical advice on Voluntary Surrender of the house to the mortgage company. I'm in -tive equity and I'm also going down the Bankrupcy route. Any advice would be valued - I'm a bit concerned because I've heard that if you sign the wrong form from the Mortgage company you can become liable for the shortfall even in Bankrupcy.
Thnaks in advance.
This is what i would do in your circumstance
- Question the validity of your alleged mortage contract NOW!
- do not consent to anything they send you
- do not speak to them on the phone
- stay in your property payment free for as long as you can ( why do you want to rent another propertry that will cost you?
- dont go BR
- Investigate why your mortage is/was a fraud, and that no one has "lent" you anything of value, therefore why should you ever leave the property?
Radical stuff ? yes maybe but in the next year as more people discover the truth about mortgages & Loans..it will be the norm!
the time of the Bankster is OVER!!
also is there anyone living in your property (apart from you & not a paying lodger/tenant) that is NOT on your "mortgage document" ? like a wife/husband/partner etc ?
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Hi guys! Many thanks for the advice. I am genuinely overwhelmed by all the support - I've been running through all this in my head for so long!
I will definately put everything in writing from here on and make sure I sent it recorded.
I'm going to get a couple of estate agents over to get a valuation and some opinions on the local market and then put this to the Mortgage company.
Not sure if anyone know much about the Company that now has my Mortgage. It's called Webb Resolutons. My mortgage was with GMAC but I believe they've sold on a parcel of their 'toxic' debts. Someone I spoke to said they might have even bought my mortgage for 50 pence in the pound!!!
Some things to consider..........
- Your "Mortgage" document is fraud in the factum. They, the Mortgage Co never gave you anything of value, they took your signiture and montized it and basically lent you your own money - you were not given full disclosure of that , they did not provide anything of value therefore there was not equal consideration
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Lawful Terms and Conditions, Which basicaly means that there should be no mischief in the proposed agrrement! - which there was
Also i would chalange whether the orig documentation even exists! in light of the recent MERS case , chances are the the original "note" has gone missing.... no note no repos!
- Your "Mortgage" document is fraud in the factum. They, the Mortgage Co never gave you anything of value, they took your signiture and montized it and basically lent you your own money - you were not given full disclosure of that , they did not provide anything of value therefore there was not equal consideration
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The When and How our Republic became Rothchilds personal Corporation
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Now at the risk of "preaching to the Choir" I am posting this again, because there are many new readers, but there are many new readers, and they also need to understand......Certainly you KNOW something is dreadfully amiss in the "government's" actions. Perhaps you wondered why your name is in all capitals on any government issued document...Surely at least, you wondered HOW "they" can get away with such blatant bull****... Perhaps you are waiting with bated breath for "patriots" to arise and restore the Republic. But did you know that the latter is YOUR job? Are you tired of being a sub-Corporation to Obama et al?This well written article is lengthy, but if you never took time to discover how the Corp Gov came into being, it is high time you knew... Indulge... it will awake you and, I hope, make you mad as hell. Mad enough to make sure everyone you meet knows the truth....“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” — Preamble of the original “organic” Constitution.“We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.” — Excerpt from the Declaration of Independence of the original thirteen united states of America, July 4, 1776.Fourth of July 2002 has come and gone, and Americans honored the holiday with a renewed patriotic fervor that reminded me of the Bicentennial celebrations of 1976. As is customary, traditional fireworks displays took center stage and scores of people turned out to witness the dazzling show in the summer sky. With mixed feelings, I sat with friends on a crowded Pennsylvania sidewalk beneath a glittering, mesmerizing explosion of color, pondering the keen sense of sadness and betrayal that overwhelmed my spirit. Looking around at the huge crowds gathered for the annual events, I thought silently, “We are not free.” In truth, we have not been a free people for a very long time.We celebrate this day in honor of our “independence”. We call ourselves a free people in a land of liberty. Our anthems proudly sing the praises of this nation, and we raise our voices, wave our flags and join in song — but how many Americans realize they are not free? This is a myth perpetuated by the powers-that-be in order to avoid any major civil unrest, and to keep us all living under the thumb of a militaristic corporate Big Brother within the illusions that have been created for us. The truth of the matter is this: what freedom has not been stolen from us, we have surrendered willingly through our silence and ignorance. As Americans, most of us have no idea how our freedoms are maintained — or lost. Apparently, our ancestors didn’t have a good grasp of this either. It is sad, but it is also very true.Don’t point to that beloved parchment, the Constitution, as a symbol of your enduring freedom. It is representative of a form of government which seemingly no longer exists in this country today. The Constitution has been thrown out the window, the Republic shoved aside and replaced with a democracy. The thing is; most people in this country remain unaware that this is so because they simply do not know the truth — what lies beyond the myths. Your so-called government is not going to tell you, either.To even begin to understand what has happened to the Republic, we must look backward in time to the period following the Civil War. We must go back to the year 1871, which was the beginning of the decline of the Republic. When we examine what happened during that time in our history, we begin to piece together this troubling, perplexing puzzle that is “America” — only then should we answer as to whether we are indeed a “free” people or not.So, let’s roll backward into the past for a moment. It is time we learned what they didn’t teach us in school. It is far more interesting than what they DID tell us. I think you’ll stay awake for this lesson.The date is February 21, 1871 and the Forty-First Congress is in session. I refer you to the “Acts of the Forty-First Congress,” Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62. On this date in the history of our nation, Congress passed an Act titled: “An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia.” This is also known as the “Act of 1871.” What does this mean? Well, it means that Congress, under no constitutional authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which is a ten mile square parcel of land.What??? How could they do that? Moreover, WHY would they do that? To explain, let’s look at the circumstances of those days. The Act of 1871 was passed at a vulnerable time in America. Our nation was essentially bankrupt— weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War. The Civil War itself was nothing more than a calculated “front” for some pretty fancy footwork by corporate backroom players. It was a strategic maneuver by European interests (the international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the neck (and the coffers) of America.The Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone’s pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. If we think about banks, we know they do not just lend us money out of the goodness of their hearts. A bank will not do anything for you unless it is entirely in their best interest to do so. There has to be some sort of collateral or some string attached which puts you and me (the borrower) into a subservient position. This was true back in 1871 as well. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend our floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a brilliant way of getting their foot in the door of the United States (a prize they had coveted for some time, but had been unable to grasp thanks to our Founding Fathers, who despised them and held them in check), and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.In essence, this Act formed the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Note the capitalization, because it is important. This corporation, owned by foreign interests, moved right in and shoved the original “organic” version of the Constitution into a dusty corner. With the “Act of 1871,” our Constitution was defaced in the sense that the title was block-capitalized and the word “for” was changed to the word “of” in the title. The original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers, was written in this manner:“The Constitution for the united states of America.”The altered version reads: “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”. It is the corporate constitution. It is NOT the same document you might think it is. The corporate constitution operates in an economic capacity and has been used to fool the People into thinking it is the same parchment that governs the Republic. It absolutely is not.Capitalization — an insignificant change? Not when one is referring to the context of a legal document, it isn’t. Such minor alterations have had major impacts on each subsequent generation born in this country. What the Congress did with the passage of the Act of 1871 was create an entirely new document, a constitution for the government of the District of Columbia. The kind of government THEY created was a corporation. The new, altered Constitution serves as the constitution of the corporation, and not that of America. Think about that for a moment.Incidentally, this corporate constitution does not benefit the Republic. It serves only to benefit the corporation. It does nothing good for you or me — and it operates outside of the original Constitution. Instead of absolute rights guaranteed under the “organic” Constitution, we now have “relative” rights or privileges. One example of this is the Sovereign’s right to travel, which has been transformed under corporate government policy into a “privilege” which we must be licensed to engage in. This operates outside of the original Constitution.So, Congress committed TREASON against the People, who were considered Sovereign under the Declaration of Independence and the organic Constitution. When we consider the word “Sovereign,” we must think about what the word means.According to Webster’s Dictionary, “sovereign” is defined as:1. chief or highest; supreme.2. Supreme in power, superior in position to all others.3. Independent of, and unlimited by, any other, possessing or entitled to, original and independent authority or jurisdiction.In other words, our government was created by and for “sovereigns” — the free citizens who were deemed the highest authority. Only the People can be sovereign — remember that. Government cannot be sovereign. We can also look to the Declaration of Independence, where we read: “government is subject to the consent of the governed” — that’s supposed to be us, the sovereigns. Do you feel like a sovereign nowadays? I don’t.It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a constitutional historian to figure out that this is not what is happening in our country today. Government in these times is NOT subject to the consent of the governed. Rather, the governed are subject to the whim and greed of the corporation, which has stretched its tentacles beyond the ten-mile-square parcel of land known as the District of Columbia — encroaching into every state of the Republic. Mind you, the corporation has NO jurisdiction outside of the District of Columbia. THEY just want you to think it does.You see, you are presumed to know the law. This is ironic because as a people, we are taught basically nothing about the law in school. We are made to memorize obscure factoids and paragraphs here and there, such as the Preamble, and they gloss over the Bill of Rights. But we are not told about the law. Nor do our corporate government schools delve into the Constitution in any great depth. After all, they were put into place to indoctrinate and dumb down the masses — not to teach us anything. We were not told that we were sold-out to foreign interests and made beneficiaries of the debt incurred by Congress to the international bankers. For generations, American citizens have had the bulk of their earnings confiscated to pay on a massive debt that they, as a People, did not incur. There are many, many things the People have not been told. How do you feel about being made a beneficiary of somebody else’s massive debt without your knowledge or consent? Are we gonna keep going along with this??When you hear some individuals say that the Constitution is null and void, think about how our government has transformed over time from a municipal or service-oriented entity to a corporate or profit-oriented entity. We are living under the myth that this is lawful, but it is not. We are being ruled by a “de facto,” or unlawful, form of government — the corporate body of the death-mongers — The Controllers.With the passage of the Act of 1871, a series of subtle and overt deceptions were set in motion — all in conjunction and collusion with the Congress, who knowingly and deliberately sold the People down the river. Did they tell you this in government school? I doubt it. They were too busy drumming the fictional version of history into your brain — and mine. By failing to disclose what THEY did to the American People, the people became ignorant of what was happening. Over time, the Republic took it on the chin to the point of a knockdown. With the surrender of their gold in 1933, the People essentially surrendered their law. I don’t suppose you were taught THAT in school either. That’s because our REAL history is hidden from us. This is the way Roman Civil Law works — and our form of governance today is based upon Roman Civil Law and Admiralty/Maritime Law — better known as the “Divine Right of Kings” and “Law of the Seas”, respectively. This explains a lot. Roman Civil Law was fully established in the original colonies even before our nation began and is also known as private international law.The government which was created for the District of Columbia via the Act of 1871 operates under Private International Law, and not Common Law, which was the law of the Constitutional Republic. This is very important to note since it impacts all Americans in concrete ways. You must recognize that private international law is only applicable within the District of Columbia and NOT in the other states of the Union. The various arms of the corporation are known as “departments” such as the Judiciary, Justice and Treasury. You recognize those names? Yes, you do! But they are not what you assume them to be. These “departments” all belong to the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. They do NOT belong to you and me under the corporate constitution and its various amendments that operate outside of the Constitutional Republic.I refer you to the UNITED STATES CODE (note the capitalization, indicating the corporation, not the Republic) Title 28 3002 (15) (A) (B) ©. It is stated unequivocally that the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Realize, too, that the corporation is not a separate and distinct entity from the government. It IS the government. YOUR government. This is extremely important. I refer to this as the “corporate empire of the UNITED STATES,” which operates under Roman Civil Law outside of the Constitution. How do you like being ruled by a cheesy, sleazy corporation? You’ll ask your Congressperson about this, you say? HA!!Congress is fully aware of this deception. You must be made aware that the members of Congress do NOT work for you and me. Rather, they work for the Corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Is this really any surprise to you? This is why we can’t get them to do anything on our behalf or to answer to us — as in the case with the illegal income tax — among many other things. Contrary to popular belief, they are NOT our civil servants. They do NOT work for us. They are the servants of the corporate government and carry out its bidding. Period.The great number of committees and sub-committees that the Congress has created all work together like a multi-headed monster to oversee the various corporate “departments.” And, you should know that every single one of these that operates outside the District of Columbia is in violation of the law. The corporate government of the UNITED STATES has no jurisdiction or authority in ANY state of the Republic beyond the District of Columbia. Let this sink into your brain for a minute. Ask yourself, “Could this deception REALLY have occurred without the full knowledge and complicity of the Congress?” Do you think it happened by accident? You are deceiving yourself if you do. There are no accidents or coincidences. It is time to confront the truth and awaken from ignorance.Your legislators will not apprise you of this information. You are presumed to know the law.THEY know you don’t know the law, or your history for that matter, because this information has not been taught to you. No concerted effort has been made to inform you. As a Sovereign, you are entitled to full disclosure of the facts. As a slave, you are entitled to nothing other than what the corporation decides to “give” you — at a price. Be wary of accepting so-called “benefits” of the corporation of the UNITED STATES. Aren’t you enslaved enough already?I said (above) that you are presumed to know the law. Still, it matters not if you don’t in the eyes of the corporation. Ignorance of the law is not considered an excuse. It is your responsibility and your obligation as an American to learn about the law and how it applies to you. THEY count on the fact that most people are too uninterested or distracted or lazy to do so. The People have been mentally conditioned to allow the alleged government to do their thinking for them. We need to turn that around if we are to save our Republic before it is too late.The UNITED STATES government is basically a corporate instrument of the international bankers. This means YOU are owned by the corporation from birth to death. The corporate UNITED STATES also holds ownership of all your assets, your property, and even your children. Does this sound untrue? Think long and hard about all those bills you pay, all those various taxesand fines and licenses you must pay for. Yes, they’ve got you by the pockets. Actually, they’ve had you by the ass for as long as you’ve been alive. In your heart, you know it’s true. Don’t believe any of this? Read up on the 14th Amendment. Check out how “free” you really are.With the Act of 1871 and subsequent legislation such as the purportedly ratified 14th Amendment, our once-great nation of Sovereigns has been subverted from a Republic to a democracy. As is the case under Roman Civil Law, our ignorance of the facts has led to our silence. Our silence has been construed as our consent to become beneficiaries of a debt we did not incur. The Sovereign People have been deceived for hundreds of years into thinking they remain free and independent, when in actuality we continue to be slaves and servants of the corporation.Treason was committed against the People in 1871 by the Congress. This could have been corrected through the decades by some honest men (assuming there were some), but it was not, mainly due to lust for money and power. Nothing new there. Are we to forgive and justify this crime against the People? You have lost more freedom than you may realize due to corporate infiltration of the so-called government. We will lose more unless we turn away from a democracy that is the direct road to disaster — and restore our Constitutional Republic.In an upcoming article, we’ll take a closer look at the purportedly ratified 14th Amendment and how we became “property” of the corporation and enslaved by our silence.I am saddened to think about the brave men and women who were killed in all the wars and conflicts instigated by the Controllers. These courageous souls fought for the preservation of ideals they believed to be true — not for the likes of a corporation. Do you believe that any one of the individuals who have been killed as a result of war would have willingly fought if they knew the full truth? Do you think one person would have laid down his life for a corporation? I think not. If the People had known long ago to what extent their trust had been betrayed, I wonder how long it would have taken for another Revolution. What we need is a Revolution in THOUGHT. We change our thinking and we change our world.Will we ever restore the Republic? That is a question I cannot answer yet. I hope, and most of all — pray — that WE, the Sovereign People, will work together in a spirit of cooperation to make it happen in this lifetime. I know I will give it my best shot — come what may. Our children deserve their rightful legacy — the liberty our ancestors fought so hard to give to us. Will we remain silent telling ourselves we are free, and perpetuate the MYTH? Or, do we stand as One Sovereign People, and take back what has been stolen from the house of our Republic?Something to think about — it’s called freedom.end Quote"We have the same here in the UK, after all we invented this [problem] - BTW our controlling square piece of land is Called the CITY OF LONDON Corporation and we are no more free the the Americans. Everything above applies to us in the UK as well, we also have many statutes, many depts etc and YES OUR Gov is also a Corporation, check them out, they have an entry in Dunn & Bradstreet!!!!!!!! -
Here you go. New one today in Scottish Daily Mail from Moorcroft. 0800-917-0676. Remuneration is by way of a good commission rate payable weekly. Full training provided. Interested?
Yes i am interested buy only if after "training" i could go round to door to door telling people they should be asking for a copy of their CCA etc and that they dont have to pay a DCA... teehee
wonder how long i would last ?
goosh have to go now, Moroncroft are on the phone with a start date for my employment !
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If you fail the "" do you want fries with that" test , this could be the once in a life time job for you
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Quote " After news of the ruling broke, the FSA announced a package of tough measures to protect consumers in the PPI market. Funny how the FSA just woke up to this , they have been asleep ( in the banksters pockets ) for a while now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the the How-it's-going-to-be-in-the-future New World Order!
Jon Pain, FSA managing director of retail markets said: 'Consumers should not be pressured or deceived into buying PPI and they are entitled to have a policy properly explained to them. apt name Jon, if you had of acted earlier then many more people would have been spared the PAIN
'It is unacceptable that despite previous warnings about pool sales practices, backed by 22 enforcement cases and significant fines, the PPI sector still needs the FSA to intervene on this.' so then why did they not act earlier !!!!!! claiming all the glory now
A spokesman for MBNA said: 'Cases in the County Court are not precedent-setting. Any such cases are decided on their individual merits and no two cases are the same - Yea right, MBNA this is a precedent & you had better get used to it ! Guess how many more are now going to follow it !
'nuff said
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Hi Willtheywontthey,
As above, it's your thread and we can only advise, it's your decision in the end.
At least now hopefully it will be a more informed one
Good luck with it whichever route you choose
Elsa x
i agree !
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I think that we all need to agree to disagree. ok
I did check the earlier links out. Maybe the link is incorrect, but all I could see was a site praising pot and bashing the Police. u got the wrong link methinks
Uniform contracts are ok for country to country dealings, but if you make a contract in this country, it is under english civil law. A credit agreement is regulated by an act of parliament. and if it is based on a Fraud?? does english law cover that ?
None of this argument is helping the original poster, True make up their mind what to do next and they now seem to have run for the hills.
If the argument is to continue, I suggest a dedicated thread.
i agree, we're done here, people must do their own research!
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i wouldn't be suprised if this whole case was prepared on the basis to FAIL. That way "they" try & sweep many S77/S78 issues away with one stoke.
if i were a banker it would make logical sense to me, get some patsy to launch a case, get them in front of a "friendly" administrator dressed up as a Judge & bobs your uncle.!
Also remember a lawyers first duty is NOT to his client, BUT to the court. and games are played on courts !
Lawyers/Judges/Bankers are all cut from the same cloth!
Nothing is ever what it appears and is frequently 180 degrees the other way round!
just sayin'