I'm not sure any of the new government private parking code is useful as the gov website says.. Private Parking Code of Practice is temporarily withdrawn pending review of the levels of private parking charges and additional fees The BPA guide does explain how a entrance sign should be, and due to it being just off a main road, how much should be on it.. It does appear this sign apart from mentioning ABC is following the guidance, probably just copied the example. https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf Since Wren Rd is actually a private road, not a public highway, does lack of PP effects the validity of the signs. I now worry our signage for the carpark for our block of flats has no PP either, but i can't find the case law on needing PP for a sign to be valid. The Code of Practice has this section.. It's clear who the BPA does not want people to complain too. Your MP, and the MP whose town centre is losing business due to deceptive car parking practices. 9.7 At a time when the private parking sector is under intense scrutiny from Government, it is imperative that correspondence from MPs (and similar VIPs) is dealt with promptly with definitive and comprehensive responses given. When such correspondence is received, we expect you to acknowledge the communication within 10 days and respond within 28 days. If the complaint will take longer than 28 days to resolve, we expect you to update the MP of this. Failure to achieve these deadlines may

I like the 'offer to treat' and pay at machine idea, but I'm not sure how legally it works as an excuse to avoid reading the t&c present in the car park, which are referred to by the entrance sign and all over the place. If the machine had t&c on it, that do not mention the 10 minute rule then this would be an excellent defence, and I suspect any sign that had a conflicting offering of t&c's would be a defence as to which ones you contracted under. I wonder how long it takes a normal human to read the pay by phone t&c should you choose to pay that way.. Well i had a look, and the page appears to be missing 'not found' Joy. Security check SUPPORT.PAYBYPHONE.CO.UK Not Found WWW.PAYBYPHONE.CO.UK

I need to wait for the PCN first... if they send one. However annoying it is to do so, it is more profitable for me to pay and work on my day job longer than fight it beyond a quick appeal they will almost certainly reject.

Yes, i'm sure you will win.. The picture of your car on the PCN notice is of it entering and exiting Wren RD, the ANPR camera is visible on google street view. I do not know how they would try to counter someone who stated they drove past the car park up wren rd, and paused, then entered the car park 10 mins later and paid in compliance with t&c. Without them having camera evidence its a he said, she said? Unless wren rd is part of the car park, which I assume it isn't but someone else here properly knows this better.

shame, you would also get tax relief as the receiver. I can see the Ltd makes basically nothing and certainly not enough to justify the time site admin spend helping. So I assume there's a reason its a ltd, and not a charity, maybe charity place to many restrictions on the entity .

I was wondering if CAG is able to take gift aid donations? I read a lot of interesting information on here, mostly posts by @dx100uk and hope they continue with the good work. Feel free to DM me,

CEL ANPR PCN POPLA unsuccessful - Morrisons, Butterfly Walk Car Park, London SE5 8RW - Page 6 - Private Land Parking Enforcement - Consumer Action Group Any update? Similar situation, interesting thread. I notice the camera is taking a picture of the entry to wren Rd, and not of the car entering the carpark.. Having travelled into the left car park, then traveled to the end of wren Rd to find more parking options, then turned around and then entered the larger carpark on the right, I spent 4 minutes from the ANPR capture, to 'arriving' at the carpark i parked and brought a ticket in. Did they have any cameras that record the entry time into the car park that showed you were still over the 10mins, or where they just relying on you entering wren Rd, and assuming you parked immediately. I don't know if popla would grant an appeal based on CEL failing to have timed evidence of entry to the car park, and me having a waze log showing entering and exiting the other car park first and actually being within the 10mins.