Hi Yeah, it's just that they are clutching at straws and one more letter to you just might make you fold!! I had a letter like that after similar time scales.....they will give up.....like has been said, you are not in debt to anyone!! Keep in there.

Hi Madelei I too had a phone call from them once. I wasn't in and they left me a message stating I need to ring them back urgently to sort out my non payment. I obviously didn't ring. Do not get into any conversation with them at all. Not even correspondence by letter. If they ring tell them to stop harassing you and hang up! They will go away. People will try and frighten you into paying, some of my family even tried with me. It is now 17 months since I had my invoice, and nothing from them since last October. Hang in there. If you don't believe some of us on here, please give me a ring or even call round, you'll see I have nothing to do with them and am genuine. Good luck

No way....these wasters just get worse don't they?!?!

Hi Madelei Yeah, DVLA don't get involved other than has already been said to give Euro the name and address of the keeper. That's it. Your case is no different, just scare mongering to get the money from you. Hold in there, my last letter from these people was last October. Nothing since. It will go away when they realise you haven't fallen for their ploy!

Hi Audiotech Your invoice is exactly the same as the one I received 12 months ago now. Use of ANPR cameras to show me entering and leaving Morrison's car park. Same threats, they prey on these threats to scare people into paying. The debt recovering agency is part of the same company that issued the invoice to you. Is it Control Account they refer to by any chance ??? I hope you have read all these posts, you will get a few more final warnings and threats of court and bailiffs etc, I kept ignoring as the advice gave me.....your invoice will increase, then decrease, they seem to make up the figures as they go along! I haven't heard anything since October. The only way to beat these [problematic] is to stand together, just ignore!!

Grotbags, yep, keep ignoring. You have not had a fine, you've had an invoice. They put mine up from 70 to 90 then 119. Then dropped it back down for a quick and final settlement after they realised I wasn't falling for it!!!!!! Sounds like they're getting a bit intrusive and yes, no one can have access to your accounts/wages or anything come to that, unless you are found guilty at a court and default from any payment a judge orders! Hang in, they will get the massege in good time.

That's it Sie....nice one. I've had nothing since October. We need to keep this up and spread the word........

sie.....yep, ignore...you will get the threatening letters.....but I like the post above.....'guess the threat! I get a different invoice every time!

Ha Ha , laughed at that....'guess the threat'...like it! Yep, I forgot to mention, when my 4th letter came, they dropped the invoice from £119.38 down to £90, for a 'quick settlement to finalise this matter'.

No updates for some time on here! I have now received my 5th letter from Control Account........just a photo copy this time of the 4th one! Very unprofessional. I have also, since that 5th letter, had a phone call from them.....they left a voicemail asking me to ring them back. I obviously haven't rung them back. (how intrusive is this getting!?) Anyone else had similar ??

Mr Fairplayforall....the loss or damage you are talking about is not loss to you for not selling as much as you might....it is the material loss to the actual car park charge....and in your case is nil because it is a free car park! For you to re coup any loss to your business you would have to take the necessary party to court yourself which is a seperate matter and you would have to prove what loss that a notional customer may have spent in your shop!!! Two seperate things here......this forum relates to overinflated illegal invoices issued by these PPC's. Also their time and money spent on 'recovering any loss' and their 'wages' does not form part of their invoice. Please, before you waffle any more, read up on English civil law, you might learn something. By the way, remind us where your business is, so I don't come and shop there.

Oh dear, Mr fairplayforall......Please read and digest the following......you clearly don't get it..........People aren't trying to get away with it but merely want things to be fair, which these invoices are not. Given the lack of statutory authority (unlike the police and local authorities), PPCs (private parking company) can only be claiming for some sort of breach of contract (a contract for parking). Point 1 here - there can only be a contract if the terms of the contract are sufficiently known to both parties (i.e. if there are very few signs or they're confusing/not in the right location, there's no contract). Point 2 - For a contract claim, a party needs to suffer a loss, or "damage", which can either be "liquidated" (fixed) in the contract or "unliquidated" (that is, to be quantified when a claim arises). These "PCNs" (penalty charge notice) purport to be "fines" but are more likely to be liquidated damages, but to be enforceable in law, they need to represent "a reasonable pre-estimate of the loss suffered". If they're more than that, they're a penalty for breach of contract and, under English contract law, penalties are NOT enforceable and one cannot impose any penalty on another. (whether monetary or other). In other words, these "PCNs" would be legitimate if they were for, say, a few pounds if the car park has similar lost charges. For free car parks, what loss has the PPC suffered? I think you now need to draw a line under your comments!

Yup, You're right....didn't look at it that way.....there is no minus(-) but it does say 'outstanding balance: £119.38'

Hi all, Got my third letter today. This time from Control Account Plc. They now state that "we have no alternative but to pass this account to our legal department for assessment" Mmmmm...been thinking, why is it that the letters are all headed and addressed to companies in Bromsgrove, but the post mark on the envelope are always marked London? Oh, My balance is still £119.38 and I now have 14 days to pay to prevent potential litigation! Will keep you posted.

Hi Just an update on my previous comments. Today, 28 June I received a letter from Control Account PLC claiming to be writing to me on behalf of their client Euro Car Parks. They now want £119.38 to be paid within the next seven days after failing to settle my outstanding parking charge notice. All they say is that by settling this amount, it will prevent the requirement for further action. Quite an official looking letter. I will continue to ignore this. It does get you thinking though to what might happen!!