Now i have had another final final demand from Churchills/Rosendales. If i don't pay, or make arrangements within them within the next 7 days they will proceed with court action against me. Of course i wont pay... but what is the deal with the alleged charge... does it belonge to them and they will take me to court... or do they hand it back to UKPC? All along the line these companies have been vague and ridiculose with their aproach... and all all along i have told them 'i you think i owe it... take me to court'. oh well i will keep you posted... If it comes to the crunch, any young soliciters out there who need a slick website built??

Many Thanks Tony49 So it is! I should look a little closer at these things before i post. obviously this is part of their tactics to blur the details, for while there i thought i was going to have to send another letter to another company. well that saves me the 80p for recorded delivery.

Many thanks to redNinja... i am looking into my avenues of complaint, what you have said is very useful to me. Today i got another final demand from a company called Churchill's. so we have shifted companies from UKPC to Rossendales to Churchill's. i believe that they are closely associated with UKPC from previous posts... i'm not sure. dose any reader have more info on Churchill's? to the previous poster who is looking for letters... you wecome to use what you like from mine... it is pretty much constructed after looking at simular letters on this site. but i can't vouch for it's effectiveness... other than the fact that the companies have tottaly ignored my serious attempts at comunication which convinces me of how they simply want to threaten you rather than engage with you. i dont think any letter will end the situation quickly.

Let me just say a big to thanks to everyone that has posted here. every time i read this forum it is like getting a fresh tank of free petrol on this nauseating journey that UKPC and Rossendales are taking me on. i just thought i would share the last letter i sent Rossendales. they contacted me by phone.. and as yet havent replied in writing even though i sent this letter. Rossendales Collection Limited Hardman Mill, New Hall Hey Road, Rawtenstall, Rossendale, Lancashire BB4 6HH Dear Sir or Madam Your company has contacted me by telephone regarding the matter of an alleged debt that has been passed on to you from UK Parking Control (UKPC Ref: 05803xxxx). Let me reiterate in writing what I established during that conversation: It is my absolute assertion that I am liable for no charge whatsoever on this matter. I have well documented communication with UK Parking Control Limited (hereafter UKPC) that demonstrates that the charge they have given me is in error and that I have disputed the ‘charge’ consistently in writing with them. Over several letters that I sent to UKPC I addressed the fact that I bore no fault and at no time has UKPC attempted to communicate with me in any way that acknowledges my arguments. No contract of any kind was entered into and no court has ruled me to be liable for any damage or lost business. Passing this alleged debt/charge on to your company before such a ruling is premature and wilful act that will cause me stress and upset. In short I know this charge to be unwarranted, unenforceable and illegal and it is being pursued in a manner that I believe to be harassment. At this time I am exploring my avenues of complaint against UKPC. I am also considering charging UKPC (or any company that assumes this alleged debt) for the significant amount of time that this situation is forcing me to dedicate to drafting letters of a legal nature. Please contact me in writing as soon as possible specifically stating that you have received this letter quoting my reference (Ref: 0311Charge) and that you understand and address these 6 positions that I hold with your company. Failure to do so will be regarded as acceptance. 1. That I believe this to be an alleged debt/charge that has been given in error and that it is unwarranted, unenforceable and illegal and that I am liable for no payment to UKPC or any agency that attempts to collect the alleged debt/charge on behalf of UKPC or any third party. 2. That I dispute this alleged debt/charge with UKPC and I have made Rossendales fully aware of this. 3. That I have given written defence to UKPC and passed copies of these communications on to Rossendales, and that any further acts by Rossendales is made in full knowledge of this communication. (e.g.: Ref.0310Charge and 0037Charge ) 4. That no written or verbal contract has been entered into or existed between UKPC and Philip XXXXXXX and that the claim of UKPC is one of alleged damages for which they assert a ‘charge’ exists, and that no UK court has made a ruling on this alleged debt/charge as of the date of this letter and any action Rossendales takes is in full knowledge of this. 5. That I will absolutely make no payment until I am ruled by court to do so. If I am ruled to do so I will comply without quarrel or delay. 6. That Rossendales is aware that I will consider persistent and automated letter sending that asserts the existence of this alleged debt/charge as well as any attempt to retrieve this alleged debt/charge before its authenticity has been established by a UK court as stressful, time consuming and damaging to my character. And that I will consider such actions as illegal under Section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970. It is my understanding that having informed you of the disputed nature of this debt that you are bound by law to pass this matter back to UK Parking control so that they might engage legal proceedings against me. If you intend to do this or proceed with any actions of any nature please make me aware of it. If I have not been clear with you or if this letter causes you any confusion, or if I can be of any further assistance in answering any questions that you may have before you pursue any action please do not hesitate to contact me. Also in the light of the communications I have sent UKPC I would like you to communicate documentation that enlightens me to the nature of the alleged debt as UKPC understand it and has communicated to your company Yours Sincerely Philip xxxxxxxxx of course as of yet they have only contacted me by phone and not addressed any of my points in writing. (letter sent recorded delivery and they ahd had it over 10 days). A person called me from Rossendales yesterday used a couple of phrases such as 'people knocking on my door' and 'badly effect your credit rating'. can i ask... can they do any of that without a CCJ. and has anyone out there recived a CCJ from Rossendales. any words from people that are further down the road then me would be great. Many Thanks again!

Well Done Dr Sinister. I cant tell you how much your story and the others that have suffered the horrible UKPC has given me a boost and pushed me to fight this retched little company. at the moment they have passed my alleged debt on to collection agency who i am informing as to the disputed nature of this debt. very soon i will be complaining to police about this... it makes me sick that company thinks that it can harass people like this.