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  1. Update: I have managed to convince my management company to cancel the charges! Thanks all for your help and advice, fingers crossed I won't need to refer back to this for any future tickets! Hope this can help others if they find themselves in a similar situation.
  2. Back with the parking signage and notices (note I only included the second page for the first letter of each kind (initial notice, reminder & debt recovery plus) as they were the same for each subsequent charge) attached. I got a bit mixed up with incident dates vs issued dates and my mum found two more letters so revising the below (8 separate incidents in total): 1 The date of infringement? 20th, 22nd, 26th, 28th June, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 10th July 2022 brassnecked The site is secure parking remote entry (the usual fob to enter the building does not open the main doors for car entry, only a side door for pedestrian entry/exit), electric gated. Thanks for the response FTMDave! I spoke to my mum today and she is ok with staying liable but I would like to argue this in court with her if it comes to that. I have told her to not respond to any of the letters but to keep me informed if the letters escalate to court proceedings. What do you mean by the below please? dx100uk I'm not sure when exactly my mum received the letters, however the initial PCNs are dated 1-2 days after the incident date. In general with regards to offence gathering i.e. not waiting until after day 29, is this something I should keep a running list of to raise in a witness statement/mention in court? Thanks All! Parking garage signage (1).pdf CPM_Debt recovery plus notices - redacted-2.pdf
  3. Thanks brassnecked. I did come across Parking Prankster's blog post but was concerned about my lease. I have now re-read my underlease with the housing association and it specifically covers the parking space (correcting what I said in my original post where I said I had no official documentation that the space is mine). There are no clauses referencing variation by the management company or the right of third parties to vary the lease. There is also the clause below which I hope I can hinge my argument on. --- 5.1 Quiet enjoyment That the Leaseholder paying the rents reserved by this Lease and performing and observing the covenants contained in this Lease may peaceably enjoy the Premises during the Term without any lawful interruption by the Landlord or any person rightfully claiming under or in trust for it --- dx100uk The scumbags didn't put any windscreen tickets on (although I don't think I went into the garage during that period until I needed to use the car again on the 9th August) so I had no way of knowing if I received an invoice. They are all timed between 4.30am-6.30am most days and one at 8.45am if I recall correctly. There are two pictures of the car in each letter, with more loaded onto the CPM website under each parking charge reference. No idea if this was taken by a resident or CPM. I will upload the parking charges (PCNs?) later today as I need to get them from my parent's.
  4. Thanks for the responses. dx100uk - do you mean that I don't have supremacy of contract with the parking lease as I am not the registered keeper? What should be the next step for the registered keeper (who is receiving these letters at a different address?) See below: 1 The date of infringement? 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 28th, 29th June, 4th, 5th, 8th July 2022 2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] N - I have sent the email above in my original post on the 6th August 2022 to their enquiries mailbox [email protected] If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide] Has there been a response? No Please AS A PDFFILE ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide] If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first. Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] No - none of the letters received state 'Notice to Keeper' What date is on it? N/A Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? N/A [scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide] 3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] Confirming with registered keeper 4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? [it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] N/A 5 Who is the parking company? UK-CPM 6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? Residential development car park - allocated parking bay
  5. Hi All First time poster here. I hope the following makes sense as I write this at 1am after 4-5 hours of frantic Googling before landing on this very helpful site! Situation: - I am a shared owner of a flat in a development managed by a management company - The property comes with an allocated parking space for which I have a copy of the lease (no other official documentation that the space is mine however, the parties to the lease are the management company [Company], the developers [Landlord] & the housing association [Tenant] - I forgot to put my permit on display (not sure this is legally required anyway) for a period of 3 weeks between the 20th June 2022-8th July 2022 (only aware of these dates as this was when the first and last parking charge was dated) - I am NOT the registered keeper of the vehicle, the car is my mum's and I use it occasionally and park is in the development's secure garage - I was only made aware of the charges/notices on the 6th August 2022 (my mum thought the letters were spam and did not open them, she only opened them on the 6th August) - On the 6th I panicked and sent a vague email to UK-CPM (which I have since learnt through this site I should not have done) as below: --- To whom it may concern, I have just been made aware of a number of parking charges issued to a car (registration: [X]) parked in Bay [Y] at the below address. I am not able to appeal these charges as they are overdue now. Please note I am in discussions with my development's management company regarding these charges. [Address] Kind regards, SOparkingcharges --- - On the 6th I also sent an email to my management company and am attempting to get them to cancel the tickets with CPM directly - this is pending and hopefully I'll get a decision tomorrow (9th August 2022) Parking Charge details: - My mum (registered keeper) has received 9 in total across the 3 week period - wording is 'Payment for your Parking Charge is due now.' - In addition, there have been two letters from Debt Recovery Plus referencing 2 of the 9 charges - wording on them is 'The time has come to decide how you wish to proceed regarding an unpaid parking charge you received in 'Address' on 20th/22nd June 2022.' - They are all over CPM's 21 days appeals period - I expect the other 7 will now arrive as Debt Recovery letters shortly Parking space lease extracts are attached, I assume that Schedule 1 Clause 1. refers to me as the person authorised by the Tenant (Housing Association) to use and occupy the parking space at all times. Having read through a few of the threads on this site, I just wanted to check if I have supremacy of contract given my position as subleaseholder? I am not named in any of the registered plans/titles for the parking space although I have the plan with the red border around my space. If not, do I have any other reasonable argument not to pay? Also next steps, do we sit tight until my mum receives a NTK? Thanks for any help given! lease.pdf
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