Thank you!

Hello all, We received the letter from the court. I can't really understand what is the criminal conviction and if there is any. Is it usually showing in the letter? Thanks notice of fine and collection order.pdf

He went there, it was very busy at the court. His case was for 2pm but then it went on at around 4. He spoke to the prosecutor to ask for OOC agreement but this was not accepted. Then inside the Court they asked him questions about why he did it, he apologised and explained his situation and then the court gave him a letter with the amount he has to pay. Hope that helps.

Yes, we also think it went well taking into consideration that he really did so much wrong. He did show how remorseful he is. The judge said to him to pay in 7 days and they gave him a paper with the reference number for payment. When my husband asked about the criminal record they said to him that IT will show In the letter that he will receive in the next few days. So we still don't have it. Will update.

Happy new year everyone! Thank you all for your help and guidance. Today was the court date and unfortunately he couldn't sort it OOC with the prosecutor. They fned him £600+ which is about 50% of the original total because they accept his apology. He has now 7 days to pay. I am not yet sure about the criminal record but will update if I have more information. Once again, thank you so much!

Thank you all for the "cash" explanations Not a native English speaker here, yes and it may become confusing But after the 1st person that explained it all made sense and clear now. I thought it was like this but as this is something completely new experience for me I wanted to be 100% sure what we are talking about. Now about the court letter I have uploaded that long ago...I think November Now, also 1 more question just come to my mind. My husband requires STANDARD dbs for his security job. So it doesn't say ENHANCED. In case of criminal conviction how this is gonna affect it? Is it same 11 years as you mentioned before?

Sorry, but what means to "hand over cash for this"???? Do you mean to give extra cash straight to the prosecutor? Or is this that all fines need to be paid on the time and in full, in cash? Or anything else? Thx

Thanks, Will definitely try this as well but not much hope left. Will update in January

Been rejected so going to court now.

I changed it a bit as you advised. Add a part that he didn't know it is a criminal offence to use someone's card. Do you think it is a good thing to include? Because it is true. Also I am gonna include payment for oyster, and his dbs needed for the job. Bazza, no I didn't ask the solicitors specifically for enhanced dbs so this 1yr is probably for basic. I am aiming to send the letter on Monday so waiting for your last advice pls. Also do I send it to the same email as the 1st letter???? because now I have only court address in the court letter... Thanks in advance! Dear sir or madam, I am writing to you again and I want to say that I deeply regret my actions which were completely out of character and as a result of stupidity. What I did was wrong and I am sorry for wasting staff time and I feel very shameful for my behaviour! I was not aware that it is a criminal offence to use someone else's oyster. As a sole income earner for my family a criminal record would be devastating for me as my employment relies upon a clean criminal history. I work two jobs in order to meet ends. I do dry cleaning and security job. For my security job I need a clean enhanced DBS and if I get a criminal record it means I will not be able to work which will make my financial situation even harder. I am a hard working man, with two small children (2 and 5 year old). My wife is not working as she is looking after the kids. I am also trying to support my sister in Pakistan (and her 2 children) who became a widow last year at age of 33! I have been paying for my travel since that day and I am attaching a proof of it. It has been hard year for me with the pandemic and all. I pride myself on my integrity and honesty and this is my first ever offence of any legal matter. And it is surely the last! I am asking TFL for an Out of court settlement meeting all reasonable admin costs and payment for the journeys made. Once again I deeply apologise, I am very stressed and anxious about the situation and I really hope that you can show some leniency in this matter and this can be settled without a criminal record. Please find attached a proof of my security job and the DBS that is required. Also statement showing my travel payments. Yours faithfully,

I am mentioning in the letter that he need enhanced dbs for his job. Although this is for his 2nd job and not the main one that he works full time...

This is what I wrote... Do I need to mention the 53 journeys that he needs to pay or said like this "any fines charged" is enough? I mean should I be more specific? Thanks Dear sir or madam, I am writing to you again and I would really like to stress to you that I am genuinely, extremely sorry for my actions and I want to ensure you that I will not do anything like this ever again! I feel very shameful for my behaviour! As a sole income earner for my family a criminal record would be devastating for me as my employment relies upon a clean criminal history. I work two jobs in order to meet ends. I do dry cleaning and security job. For my security job I need a clean enhanced DBS and if I get a criminal record it means I will not be able to work which will make my financial situation even harder. I am a hard working man, with two small children (2 and 5 year old). My wife is not working as she is looking after the kids. I am also trying to support my sister in Pakistan who became a widow last year at age of 33 It has been hard year for me with the pandemic and all. I pride myself on my integrity and honesty and this is my first ever offence of any legal matter. And it is surely the last! I am really upset that I made this mistake and now I'm in this awful situation. I am asking TFL to allow me to pay the reasonably incurred costs in full to dispose of the matter without court actioning order to prevent getting a criminal record. I will take full responsibility for covering the cost of any fines charged. Once again I deeply apologise, I am very stressed and anxious about the situation and I really really hope that you can show some leniency in this matter. Please find attached a proof of my security job and the DBS that is required. Yours faithfully,

Thank you for your replies. I am attaching the previous letter so you can help me do a better one now. I have read all the topics and examples in previous conversations. Really really worried about it. I can't even sleep properly. Now...I have contacted a solicitor company just out of interest and they asked for £700 just to send letter to Tfl. Also they said in worst case scenario and criminal record this will be for 1 Yr. Just for the record and it may help others. Now Bazza...I m confused...is it gonna be 11 years or 1 Yr on his criminal record and DBS? Also on the court letter there is no the TFL email or any address for tfl. Do I send the grovelling letter to the same email as initially? Thanks a lot for all your help! We are really stressed and ashamed! And we never knew this was so serious! 1ST BEGGING LETTER.pdf

Hello again, my husband sent grovelling letter back In August. But no luck with it and now we received a court letter. I will attach copy of it and pls advice me what are now the options Is there an option for ooc settlement or not? Also I found out that if court and plead guilty then this will stay on his criminal record for 1 year. Does that mean that his enhanced dbs will show clear after 1 year? Also does that affect applications for mortgage, loans, etc? Thank you in advance! Also we have a copy of the list with the TIC 53 journeys requisition to attend Mag Court - 53 uses.pdf

Thank you. I have checked other cases in the forum, will write a letter answer and lets see. Will update once I have something new.

Oh yes, most definitely not using the card! I am just very worried about any court letters!

Yes, it is the standard letter yes. I am noticing from the forum that most people using Freedom are receiving straight court letters few months after the offence. Now my husband received a letter on the next day. When he was asked to show the freedom pass he didnt know what is this as he was really not aware what is this, he knew it is just free oyster. So he finally showed it and lied to the inspector that he found it on the road and used it to save money. Is it possible that the inspector consider this as normal " not paid ticket" case and not a Freedom abuse case? And what if he just write: I plead guilty and I am deeply sorry for using oyster card that doesnt belong to me. It was really stupid action and I apologise. I will never do it again. I didnt realise the seriousness of this crime till now. Written this way he doesnt say he lied and he is not showing that this is Freedom pass. But he plead guilty and he knows he is wrong. Is it possible that they believe he found it and not check any more details?!?!?? It is my mom card, she doesnt know anything about it and she will honestly kill me if she undestand what we did.

initial letter from tfl initial tfl letter.pdf

This is the letter we received. So the card is from new year. He maybe used it 15 time jan and feb, then completely not end of feb and full march and half april as we were abroad. Then half april, may, june, july maybe 3-4 times a week once a day from st. john wood station. He got caught on Tothenham. So do you say he need to explain that he lied about finding the card and explain that this is his mother in law card and he took it this day as he was out of pocket???? I am very worried that if he explain they may investigate further and catch him using it for long. On the other hand if he apologise for using the "found card" they may catch him lying if they check the freedom address.

Hello everyone, I am new here and it seems that I have a big problem and I need your help! Yesterday my husband was caught by inspector touching out my mom Freedom pass. My husband lied and said he just found it yestersay and decided to use it to save some money on travel bcoz he is not working regularly due to the pandemic. The inspector confiscated ny mom freedom pass and took my husband details. Today we received the standard letter to fill up the form on the back and to explain guilty/not guilty. Now I am confused what to do. There is few details in the story. 1- my mom is from Eastern Europe and have surname completely different from my husband he is with Asian origin. The picture of the pass as well dont make any connection btw them both. BUT my mom card is registered on the same address?!?! And I already reported it lost yesterday and received an email that new card is on the way in 5-7days. 2- my husband was using this card for about a year, but it was really irregular as he is on furlough and really not working that much, also touching his own card on mornings bcoz the freedom is not working in peek times. 3- my husband was caught on different station and not on the one that he usually uses the card to go to work. 4- my husband was caught about a year ago (or a bit more) "jumping" out. Then he said he is guilty and sorry and we paid the fine. Then he throw his oyster and bought a new one but his details are still within the record i think. Now what we are worried is the court! We are in process of buying a property and my husband also need a clear criminal record for his 2nd job so we need to avoid the court. What should I do? Should I find a lawyer? How this can affect job and house-buying? What is best to write in the letter- continue with the lie that he found the card and hope they will not check the freedom details OR say what really was and wait for the punish? am really very scared and worried and all. I have seen the remorse letters and I will make a good one but which story to write? I am scared that if I lie that he found it and then they find out that the address is the same and he is lying it can get worse. Please any information and advice will be much appreciated. Thanks