Well my partner rang Hydro, probably against better judgement......However they investigated it and found it to be an issue with the opening balance. Upon correction it transpires they owe her £62.97! So imagine my delight in telephoning PDCS to tell them this. We are expecting a cheque and final bill in the post. I'll send that to the monkeys with typewriters at PDCS.

Edit: A copy of the final bill, not the cheque ;-)

The billing code will be applicable for this.

 

And please stop using the phone to discuss financial issues. Unless you are recording the content of the calls then keep everything in writing.

 

UB, please stop advising people to use the phone I know you mean well, but we both know when there is money involved, people will lie and cheat in order to get their grubby mitts on it. Letters are much more secure and provides a paper trail of evidence if ever required. Your not the only one to recommend calling them, I've seen a few other members advise other to use the phone too.

 

Crabair, start a paper trail ignore PDCS (?) and get straight onto the OC. Check her credit file too.

Thanks Boo,

What's the best letter to send to the OC then 'cause at the minute we've nothing to go on, just a text and a phone call. I'll be furious if they've mucked about with her CRA!!! If they have is there a course of redress?

Normal rules apply. Statute of limitations.

 

There is a energy back billing code, where bills have not been supplied. This limits backbilling to 12 months. But I guess this does not apply here.

The problem is twofold I guess: firstly why has it taken two years to supply a 'final bill' despite giving a forwarding address, and staying with the same company, and secondly, if there is any liability who does it belong too, that is, are the meter readings correct for the time period of occupancy etc.

I guess we will only find out the answers by ringing Hydro direct which I'll get my other half to do later. I believe it should fall under back billing, after all if you supply meter readings then it shouldn't take 2 years to generate a bill surely. I'm also positive she would have done this as the management company would not release deposits without there being proof of utilities being settled.

Yes they can. So she should check.

 

Perhaps she should just phone Hydro Gas. Give her name and previous address details to see if they can find any unpaid accounts. If there is an unpaid account, which she does not owe, she can raise a complaint.

Well I've called PDCS and they claim it's from 2010! Is there a time limit on utility accounts for collection? We are planning on ringing the Hydro later to check meter readings etc. it just seems fishy that it's taken 2 years to generate a final bill, and they haven't sent it to her forwarding address, they've just put it to PDCS?

Text back, saying that they have texted the wrong number and should check to make sure they contact the right person.

 

They are part of Scottish & Southern Energy

Thanks Uncle. The problem is she left a rented flat some time ago. I wouldn't put it past the landlord / agency / tenant from trying to pass debt onto her. Can these chancers mess with your CRA file?

Hi All,

Partner just received a text from PDCS. Now I know she has no debt whatsoever. But in the text they are quoting a Hydro Gas case number? She doesn't want to just leave it though. Any help appreciated.

Thanks to all, especially Brig for the letter template. Much appreciated as always.

Brig,

I absolutely know what the debt is (Barclaycard sold to Aktiv Kapital), but I know that it is recently SB as my CRA shows last payment and then the default date. I've cross checked bank accounts and no payments made (as far as I can possibly tell) in 5 years.

Had a letter from Scotcall stating they'd be coming 'round to see me regarding a debt that's done the rounds with BCW and Aktiv Kapital. Long story short is I believe it now to be SB.

I'm moving soon so they'll have fun turning up at my old address, which will be empty and only accessed by security doors! That said I don't want cards etc put through the door as it'll be my old landlord / agent who'll receive and I don't want my neighbours 'questioned' or my business known to all and sundry

Best plan here?

so you had a doorstepper in scotland!!

 

 

that is not allowed!

 

start yuor own thread and tel us about this debt

 

bet it doesn't even exist legally.

 

snotscrawl ony chase lemon debts

 

 

 

dx

So Scotcall cannot visit you at all in Scotland?

Latest letter from these cretins threatens me with a doorstop 'debt investigation agent'

They claim that on previous correspondence they informed me I'd be subject to legal action as this is what they'd recommend to their client (Aktiv Kapital)

yet now they will be sending a pensioner in a mac to 'investigate' me.

They are laughable.

If they were satisfied legal action was the way forward, hence their recommendation, why have they not pursued this?

Seems to me they are clutching at straws.

I'm satisfied I've made no payments in 5 years so it is SB in that respect,

but I know I did write providing medical evidence in May '07 as I have a GPs letter from that time.

I think I'll wait until the end of May and fire off the SB letter.

These idiots will not stop calling me. Here's an example:

"Hello"

TD - "Hello can I speak to Mr x please"

"May I ask who's calling"

TD - "Mr X it's Trust Deed Scotland"

Now it's clear at this point they think they're speaking to me, despite me not confirming this. They then become argumentative if I tell them I'm not interested in what they have to say. They also fail to acknowledge that I have not confirmed my identity, yet they continue to call me by my Christian name. I am royally fed up of them. I owe them nothing and have no desire to use their services, yet they're hell bent on calling me for an argument!

Today I just said hang on after answering then sat the phone down for five mins before ending the call. I think I'll invest in a whistle next......

A new letter arrived a couple of days a go she just brought it to me today it now says as they haven't received any reply that they may advice their client to seek legal action.

I've had the same letter; thus far no action. My debt is SB to the best of my knowledge so I'll sit back and see what nonsense they come up with next....... Ultimately it comes down to this: if these companies had any chance of recovery they'd have done something in the first instance and long ago.

Seems everyone is of the same opinion What's sad about all this is that had they tried to help in the first instance I could have possibly done something. Due to a lack of understanding, compassion and ultimately greed they can foxtrot oscar!

I am really tempted to send a sarcastic SB letter as I know I've not paid in 5 years. However I've found a letter from my doctor I copied and sent to my creditors around May 07 which asked for charges etc to be written off as I was unwell when entering credit agreements (bipolar affective disorder) and unlikely to be working in the foreseeable future. They refused. So I'm concerned if I did send the SB letter they may have my previous letter on file thus acknowledging the debt in the preceding 5 years.

you'll get every cleaver word play in the world

 

but it will never say WILL..

 

ignore

 

dx

Having read it, and read it again you're right, at no point does it say will. Rather it's all about recommending and possibilities.

Got another letter today....... This time stating they will be recommending to their client that they seek a CCJ. It is worded slightly differently to the others. I may post it up if anyone thinks its worth me worrying about?

Thanks for taking time out to reply guys. I've no intention on using their 'services' rather I was curious if they were a DCA using tactics....... Seems they are just telephone vultures preying on people. Sadly.

Has anyone had these idiots bombard them with phone calls?

They are based in Glasgow and call themselves Trust Deed Scotland.

They call and ask to speak to me, I don't confirm my name and simply ask who they are and what they want.

I normally get some cock and bull about "new money legislation" at which point I cut their narrative short and ask for my number to be removed from their system.

However they can be pretty aggressive and try to get me to confirm my name etc.

My thoughts are they are either a DCA trying it on, or are just plain stupid.

Can I complain to anyone?

It is so nothing recorded in the last six years.

You Sir are a star as usual

Tick what applies to your case.

Is there an entry uder public information

on your credit file?

Thanks Dora

Brig - There isn't any info recorded, is that a fairly safe way to assume none have been issued?

I am wishing to check if any of my creditors have obtained a CCJ without my knowledge. However there are lots of options on the Trustonline site; do I need to tick them all? I'm in Scotland. Thanks as always!

So send a copy of the Experian report to Equifax?

Aktive Krapital have placed two defaults on my Equifax file for the same debt.

They are placed six months apart and relate to the debt being at an old address.

That is that Equifax show accounts at my current address, and accounts at my old address;

its listed on both as defaulted but with a different date.

My Experian report only shows it once and I'm wondering what I can do about ths?

The debt is, as far as I'm aware SB.

That said I'm not keen on starting a war with them just yet.

Would I be better waiting until the first default listed drops off and then ask them why the second remains with a different date?

Well these morons are now demanding money by issuing a FINAL DEMAND....... They've threatened to send a doorstep collection agent, and may suggest legal action to their client (Aktiv Kapital) Don't know what I could have done to offend; just three weeks ago they were offering me a discount! ;-)