I did check my mirror - I was taught a while ago and even still indicate if no-one is behind me. I notice when my kids were taught that they don't do that any more, but to me it's just automatic to do the old check list, M-S-M, and in cities especially, the wing mirror for bikes, as I am a cyclist too. The TP was going fast, as my husband reminded me he had to reverse back towards the lights to get out of the junction. I assumed he'd shot out from behind me as we approached the junction, and given where the scrape occurred, he must have been in the bus lane before it ended. I wasn't moving very fast as the lights had been green for a while and I thought they might change any second. Thanks for all the input, it's been really helpful.

Many thanks for all the really helpful replies. I don't know whether the driver - who is not the car owner - is going to try to claim or not, but I've managed to get hold of my insurers, and they seem to think I may be in the right. I wasn't going to claim anyway, as the damage to my car is merely a small scrape on top of another old one. But at least I've told them my side, and I have the diagram and account if I need it. Good suggestion re CCTV - I'll have a look and see if there was any, but I'm not that hopeful - cutbacks, as you mentioned. Have you noticed how half the motorway lighting is now turned off? Regards,

Thankyou, BankFodder, will certainly do the diagrams now, before I forget the details!

Had a little scrape and would appreciate some advice. Approaching a (green) traffic light, in the middle of three lanes, nearside lane being a bus lane until just before the lights. Rush hour, so lots of traffic. Indicated to turn left (after the lights) on approaching the end of the bus lane, and, not having passed a bus, taxi or bike for a few hundred yards, begin to pull over when the bus lane ended. At which point, chap behind must have pulled out of the middle lane, as he steamed up beside me on my left, and my nearside bumper took a strip of paint off his rear driver's side door, no dents. I stopped and pulled in completely, just before the lights. He was going fast enough to be through the lights, which include a pedestrian crossing, before stopping. The cars touched just where I began to pull out, which was where the road markings indicated that the bus lane ended. To be where he was, the other driver must have been in the bus lane to start with, and caught me as it ended. Is it likely to be my fault? All advice gratefully received!