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  1. Hi, I'm new to this site, managed to find this while searching the net about a car my girlfriend has paid a deposit to buy. Anyway I'm hoping someone can help us with some advice in regards to this car before we go ahead and conclude the deal (please bare with the long message - I've tried to include as much detail as possible). After searching for a newer car during the week we settled on a 3 year old Peugeot 207 GT with 20,000 miles. This car is located at a (non Peugeot) dealers about 110 miles away. We have viewed the car and both driven it once. After settling on an offer involving a part-ex we agreed a deal and paid a deposit. This deal was dependant on getting 12 months warranty, 6 months road tax (which we had to push for), 1 dent removed, some scratches polished out, an overspray mark on the bonnet improved upon, and getting the gearbox checked out as there appeared to be a problem with it (when moving out of 5th gear). The was an issue with 2 of the tyres too - both looked very close to the limit, we tried to haggle for these to be replaced but we were told the 2 most worn tyres still had 3 and 4 mm of tread left so they wouldn't budge. Since putting a deposit on the car I have done a bit of digging around. I have rang the garage that the car has been serviced at to ask about the history and any evidence of accident repair, (I am pretty confident the car is in very good condition with no evidence of any repair and respray work to my eagle eye) and they informed me the car appears straight, no evidence of any major work or problems, did have some work on the ABS/ESP unit and ECU(?) at 2 year service but no recalls or anything linked to the gearbox issue which is the only thing that didn't feel right. The Peugeot 207 range seems to have quite a few reliability problems, 2 in particular: the biggest, most common and dangerous being a problem with the timing belt/chain causing de-pollution errors appearing, which causes the engine to miss-fire, cut out and sometimes the steering to lock and brakes not to work when the car is moving! Garages don't seem to know what the cause or correct fix is, stories of people having the car off the road longer than on the road! Getting tons of different parts replaced which only seem to temporarily fix the problem (www.roadtestreports.co.uk/road-test-reports/Peugeot/207/). Gearbox will not move back to nuetral or any other gear (apart from reverse worringly!) easily when moving out of 5th gear. Appears to be because the gearbox linkage (link1 link2) has been set wrong by the dealers using a special alignment tool which I assume must be inaccurate, and only the main Peugeot Technical Centre in Head Office (Coventry) can fix this by either fitting a modified linkage or adjusting the linkage manually. I have however, been unable to get to speak to anyone in the technical centre to ask for more info on this specifically (I may actually email Peugoet UK asking for information on this). GT model specific problem: Faulty Sensor Pressure Vavles on GT models which alert to low air pressure in each of the tyres. Usually cars have the 1st 2 problems from new, and the 3rd problem is just due to design fault/low quality/cost materials being used, but regularly spraying some 'rost off' on the sensor pressure valves can improve the longevity of them or can possibly get this system switched off altogether. Regarding the gearbox - after speaking to the Peugeot main dealer where the car was originally bought and maintained, and Peugeot Customer Care, they advised me they had not heard of this problem before (the dealers were helpful and asked an experienced technician who said he'd never heard of this problem) but they both advised that if unsure, we should make sure we have something in writing from the dealers we are buying the car from to say the gearbox will be covered under the 12 months warranty. Now my questions are this; the 2 main issues with this car are gearbox and tyres. Is it reasonable to contact the garage and say we will come and pick the car up on x date if I can double check the tyre treads are no less than 3 and 4mm at their lowest points, and if they have not fixed the gearbox linkage problem (doubt they'd even have a clue what the problem is, especially if main Peugeot dealers aren't aware of it!), that we can have reassurance in writing that the gearbox will be covered under 12 months warranty before we conclude the deal and buy the car and drive it off? Do you think I should email the dealer about these issues and include the links above, so that I have written evidence rather than just talking over the phone? Thanks very much in advance (if you've managed to stay with me!) Regards Andy
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