Ok but what if I was charged this fee pluss van fee on the same day a levy was made on a car which isnt mine. Surely a baliff cant just turn up in a van with no previous levy and charge me for it! When i questioned this i was told that levy was made the same day on a vehicle parked outside my house! (not mine) Surley the fact that levy was made on absolutely no property i own whatsoever would mean the 3rd visit fees and van charge are void? Is it up to the bailiff to prove a vehicle is mine before he can levy on it and charge me van charges? He told me it was up to me to prove it wasnt mine which is difficult when i have never seen such vehicle before! Thanks everyone for your help with my problem. I understand its not at all clear cut these grey areas and it seems so many laws and legislations out there completely contradict each other!

I have no paperwork stating a Head H fee. No paperwork at all stating any fees I think i must have got under their skin at the council offices as i recieved today the bill concerning my present propertys council tax and just seven days to pay in full! (Not related to previous problem) Is it resonable for me to request that i only pay this once i have been refunded the £24.40 and £110 charged on the 3rd visit?? (letters have already been sent) Or shall i pay up to keep them off me back and continue to push for a refund? thanks

Head H fee? Not sure what this is. No reference made. I offered to pay the first and second visit fees only but my offer was swiftly rejected. I have just posted letters to bailiff company and the council asking for a bill breakdown. Having already asked for this many times on the phone, Im not to hopefull i will recieve this as it would be proof on paper that they made mistakes. My best case senario is they will realise this and refund me all charges made on the 3rd visit. Fingers crossed

I never recieved a notice of seizure. All i was left is the bailiff removal notice - magistrates liability order/distress warrent. Paymen due in 48 hours. I had no warning he would return the next day and clamp my car in my absense. A car in which he had never seen before and had no previous levy.

An excelent replie thankyou. It sounds like my bailiff friend hasnt done his job correctly! I will be sending off my letters recorded delivery today. The fact that he has charged me £110 van charge on the same day he made levy on a car i do not own is bad enough. The fact i pretended not to be at home on this day and saw with my own eyes that he came in a car is even worse. I have no proof of this as i didnt realise he was chargin a van fee until he had gone so i didnt take photos etc. Im as stubbon as they come and will go all the way to retrieve back the £110 as a matter of principle. I cant use the fact he didnt arrive in a van as i cant prove it. So i will use the fact that the regulated procedure wasnt carried out and i was refused any paperwork im entitled to before i was forced to pay.

Hello is there any kind people out there willing to answer my questions on the above post please. I have letters ready to send but could do with some more opinions first thanks

The levy was made on nighbours car before i paid outstanding balance to council (excluding all charges). This was done on the same day as the 3rd visit. There were only the total fees left to pay when he came the next day and clamped my car (not the car he levied). Can a bailiff make levy on a car and charge van fees on the same day?! Dose he have to leave the relevent paperwork enforcing this? Is he allowed to clamp a car he believes to be mine without contacting me first? Can a levy be made on a car and be clamped on the same day? Is this procedure correct:- 06/2/08 1st visit (£24.50) 28/9/09 2nd visit (£18.00) 20/1/10 3rd visit (£24.50 plus £110 van charge and levy made on nighbours car, not mine) After which i payed remainder council tax but no bailiff charges. 21/1/10 4th visit (My car clamped and demand made for full payment of all bailiff charges or more fees would be added and car would be towed) If theres nothing wrong here then i do apologise but it just dosnt seem fair and legal to me. I have never met the bailiff in person, just spoke on the phone. I offered to pay for the first 2 visits but i wasnt happy with paying van charge. This he said was not exceptable. many thanks

Thanks for your good advise. I will carrie out your suggestions. Yes on his 3rd visit he charged me £24.50 visit fee and van/attendance fee of £110 on top. No paper work at all left with me except the distress warrant with a hand written total. How can he charge that without doing a levy first? He did a levy on this day on a nighbours car. I was told this was enough to charge me the van fee. How can you charge a van fee on a car levy?? There was no reason for him to attend in a van. He has never seen any of my possesions or anything i own that would fit into a van, let alone a whole car! After this visit i managed to get a hold on the account for 2 weeks to buy me some time. I agreed to pay the full amout at the end of the hold. I then paid the council the origional oustanding council tax but not the bailiff charges. The next day i get a phone call at work from the bailiff saying i had gone behind his back by talking to the office and he has now clamped my car (on a public highway) and will have it towed within 30 mins if i didnt pay up in full. I had almost no choice but to have my friend pay him (in cash). He found out from a nieghbour which was my car. Surley he cant clamp a car he hasnt levied first?! Do bailiffs have the same power when only trying to collect the biliff fees and NOT council tax if the council tax has been payed just leaving the fees????

Thanks for your replie. After the 3rd visit i payed the coucil the £69.34 i owed them. My friend paid the £177 charges to sop them taking my car . I was happy to pay the £24.50 and £18 for the first 2 vists to rossendales but not another £24.50 and £110 van charge on a 3rd visit where they took levy on the random pickup. The bailiff told me he couldnt check himself and i had to prove the pickup wasnt mine. When he came back the next day he asked a nieghbour which was my car. once he knew, out came the clamp and along came the phone call so i had no other choice but to pay (thanks to a friend). If i can get back the 3rd visit van charges back i would be very happy. Currently working on letters thanks for your help

I have studied many previous posts relevent to bailiff charges and have been very impressed with the advise being given. I have decided to start my own thread as my situation spreads over a long period of time which makes it fairly complicated. I hope someone wont mind going over the same topics in relation to my unuiqe problem. It isnt so much i cant pay but in principle should i pay! I will start from the begining and try to speak plainly. I lived in a property leaving on the 8th nov 07. The landlord informed me he had notified the council. I still owed for 1 months coucil tax which i was unaware of. I didnt pay any council tax again until i moved into a new property in april 08 as i was staying with family. On setting up payment i was told i already owed nearly £400 on my previous address as their records show i didnt move out untill april 08, 4 months after i had! I was told the matter had already gone to a debt collection company (rossendales) and i would have to pay them plus charges for a visit to my previous address on the 6th feb 08 (wasnt even living there). Wasnt even aware of any coucil tax owed! I was told if i could prove my actual move date the bill would be reduced. I phoned my old landlord and he sent a letter and phoned them informing them of this date. I phoned myself a few days later to check and was told no corespondance took place. Another letter was sent by the landlord but regretibly i never took copies of either. I assumed this would have been recieved and almost forgot about the issue. Then on the 28th sept 09 i recieved a bailiff removal letter through the post over a council tax issue but with no bill details. (Second visit) I promptly phoned the council and was told no evidence of my move date had been recieved so the matter had been left with the bailiff's. I then had to take time off work to visit my old landlord a long distance away and took the letter to the council office by hand and didnt leave until their computor systems were updated. I moved house again. I then recieved my reduced bill 11th nov 09 (the 1 month i did owe) plus court charges. I was told i had to settle this with the bailiff's as i had to cover their charges aswell. I asked rossendales for a bill and so on 7 dec 09 they sent me a final reminder for £148.84. This wasnt to bad but still twice what i really owed in council tax! I decided to phone the council again and managed to get them to take off the £37 pounds court costs. I asked if i would get another bill and was told she would tell them to send me one (although i have no evidence of this and they denie the conversation took place!) I now should have phoned the bailiffs myself to check and settle payment but i waited for the bill as i wanted the time to buget in the payment. On the 20 jan 10 the bailiffs attented my new house and left me another removal notice asking for £236.84. I questioned this figure but couldnt get anything out the bailiff office and had to deal direct with the bailiff. I phoned him and asked for a breakdown of the bill in writing. He told me this was not possible. He told me over the phone instead: £24 for 1st visit, £18 for 2nd visit and £24 plus £110 van charge for 3rd visit. £59.84 for the actual council tax (figure not correct) All three visits were to different addresses. I took another day off work to hope to resolve the issue. I managed to get a 2 week hold on the account to gather funds (really i wanted to investigate further!) I Spoke to the council and was imformed it was a bailiff isssue and to speak to them. I told them i wanted to pay the council tax i owe only as i am contesting the bailiff charges. This they let me do. I spoke to rossendales again to question the charges (maily the van charge). I said no levy or agreement has been made so how can you charge for van attendance?! Apparently levy can be made on the day and to any nearby vehicle! eh? Is this true?? They actually took levy on some random pickup i had never seen before! They also didnt leave anything except the bailiff removal notice with no breakdown of charges, no enforcement regulations stating their powers and no council authorisation and bailiff certificate numbers. The next day at work I get a phone call from the bailiff saying i had gone behind his back by phoning the office and contesting the bill so he has clamped my car (the car i actualy own this time) which is to be towed today if i didnt pay the full charges in 20 mins! after which i would be charged additional charges for tow truck etc. Nightmare! There was nothing i could do but to get a good friend of mine to go to my house and pay the bailiffs the full amout. Im no expert on this which is why im here but surely i havnt recieved the proper procedure. I want my charges refunded to me plus compensation for all the phone calls and time take off work trying to resolve the problem. Is this un-realistic?? After reading other threads im fairly in tune with the law etc but am interested to know what action other people would take. Sorry for long complicated post. Many thanks for reading Steve