I dont need to justify my trade; I take pride in providing a much needed service to landowners who have problems with A) Tight fisted motorists who dont want to pay their way in life and B) Motorists who have no respect for other peoples property. Just for the record I do not agree with ticketing; if it were up to me it would be clamping all the way as it is guaranteed payment and it has 100% backing from the law (numerous test cases- Arthur -v- Anker (1995) , Vine -v- Waltham LBC (2000)). But some landowners prefer ticketing; but as you know, at this time nothing is set in stone legally. By the way any company that states the registered keeper is ultimately responsible for a Civil Parking Charge is breaking the law (AT THIS MOMENT TIME ANYWAY). However it is understandable why some companies take this stance, if some C**nt is not willing to pay a £3.00 pay and display fee, he is gonna do everything he can to worm his slimey little way out of a P.C.N. If the registered keeper was not driving they should have to pay the charge and pursue the money from the person who was driving; if they are unwilling to make payment then you shouldn't have lent the car to the kn*b in the first place. If every one paid for their parking and respected private land there would be no need for companies such as mine. Which would be fine, i would simply make my money in an alternative line of work; but there's plenty of you chancers to keep me going for years:-D. P.S. a P.C.N is not a fine its is a charge for the use of a car park its just that its cheaper if you pay in advance i.e Pay and Display. Any company has the right to charge for products / services / rent of a parking space, there could be an argument that a motorist's who hasn't paid for parking has committed theft, but thats a different can of worms. Peace:)

what is the pepipoo challenge?

Take a look at the top of page 2 on your link; basically they state that a contract is considered fair if the terms are clear with no hidden pitfalls. Generally parking companies signage / contracts comply with this statement

If you have written permission from the land owner you have the right to form a contract with motorists.

Whats unreasonable about insisting that motorists pay for their parking:-?:-?:-? With reference to the amount of the charge usually between £30 and £75 if paid within the discounted period; the profits are not as high as you think. The fee has to cover: wages / staff training / fuel / vehicles / a ridiculous amount of admin / DVLA fees / printing / signage / pay and display machines 3-8 grand each / maintenance of machines / repairs to vandalised machines / commision to landowners. The fees are quite reasonable taking the above into account, tecnically we oops, THEY could just clamp / tow and charge in the regeon of £400 to get your car back COMPLETELY LEGALLY but the good guys dont.

In response to the person who requested an explanation as to why the above post was untrue. Firstly it is not illegal to clamp or tow a vehicle (unless you live in Scotland). Would a government authority, namely the Security Industry Authority, issue vehicle immobilisation licences if it were an illegal act:?: Secondly, correct a private company cannot issue fines (unless contracted by the local council to conduct civil enforcement), this is why parking tickets are called ' Parking charge Notice' not 'Penaly charge notice'; the ticket is a charge not a fine. Finally with refrence to the comments regarding the amount of the charge, a business can charge what they wish for a product or service, you will find the charges printed on the car parks signage. If one of the charges is applicable to vehicles not following the terms and conditions of the car park then so be it, it so happens that the charge is requested after the charge is incurred, the P.C.N is in effect an invoice. If you do not agree to the charges then fine just park else where. The mistake a lot of people make is that just because a car park is readily accessable to the public it is still private property and if you are not prepared to respect the land owners wishes then you have no right to be there. Put yourself in the landowners position if he did not have measures in place to sort out parking fee dodgers (who do not want to pay their way in life like everyone els), no body would pay. If no one paid the car park would close down and there would be very limited parking across the country, is that what some of you want:idea: Parking enforcement is a necessary evil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Al27, you clearly dont know what your on about. If you park on private property and their is signage saying that permits/tickets must be displayed or you will recieve a parking charge then this is what you must do, the term is pay and display, not pay and put it in your pocket / put it on the floor / put it behind the tinted section of your windscreen / put it face down so you cant read the time and date of expiry etc etc.. If you park your car then you have agreed to the terms and conditions and therefore entered into a contract. The parking charge is for breach of contract, weather you bought a ticket or not is irrelevant. Its quite simple, if you dont agree with the restrictions on privately owned property then dont park there.