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  1. OK Thanks dx and Ericsbrother, I have submitted a simple defence based on your replies. I will wait and see what happens next.
  2. That is so helpful Ericsbrother. I am conscious of what dx has said that I need to research which I have done and am doing (hence finding this site and having the courage to get this far, instead of meekly paying up) but although I am capable of searching my nurse training did not equip me to understand Contract Law so I am very appreciative of your help. I have considered making a donation to the value of the original fine if someone can help me through. It is not the money, its the principle. If I get out of this £185 that would be a real success. I gather you are saying just for now defend myself by denying a contract exists, mentioning the ownership of the land by Transport for West Midlands and bylaw 14 and that I did not accept their terms. Also saying that there are lines around the bay where I parked and it is not clear that you are not allowed to park there. I wondered about entrapment as it is a space in an obvious position with the only camera in the car park trained on it. (It is pretty obvious once you have bought a train ticket online and arrive at the station you need to park and as that car park is the only one nearby it is tempting to park in this 'non space' if it is the only one available). I am wondering if this space is a lucrative source of income in an otherwise free car park? Do you think this is enough/too much? I have found templates for a defence but they are complicated and in language I unfortunately do not comprehend.
  3. Sorry I missed that bit- re my defence. Im probably driving you crazy with things that are obvious to you - but what defence do I supply? (This is what happened but I dont know if this is my defence. Although I am the keeper, I wasn't the driver- I was with a neighbour being dropped off at the train station. There were no spaces so I parked in a small area quite safely, not blocking anything and next to a parking bay. In addition we were only planning staying for the time it took to get my cases to the station, less than 10 minutes, I did not accept their terms and conditions which didn't come into force until after a 10 minute stay? ) Do I have to get any more technical than this at this stage? Is this the 'right' thing to say or am I admitting too much. Please help me with what I need to write in my defence. Thank you.
  4. Thank you Ericsbrother for that detailed reply. I have this morning posted my CPR letter and I have registered my claim so for now will have to wait and see what the next move is. I am a bit concerned as I will be out of the country for 5 weeks until December so I just have to hope that I dont miss any deadlines I'm notified of by post. Does any one have any idea how long their next move is likely to be? Thanks once again to those of you taking the time to help me out with this one.
  5. Thanks dx. So I gather I send the CPR form and see what happens- then if necessary go to the next step following your advice?
  6. I am happy to do some research but I'm not sure where I should be looking or if Im honest, what for? I really appreciate your time and help However I did a brief search of legal stuff re Byelaw 14 which seems to suggest only the Landowners can bring a case to court. Is this correct and if so what does it mean to my case please?
  7. I have visited the Station and have discovered the land is owned by Transport for West Midlands. Does this make my case easier or harder - or just different? I have also uploaded all my photos to make it easier for anyone to take a look. It includes a picture of the space where my car was parked. Car park pictures.pdf
  8. HI dx I have registered the claim as you suggested. I have written the letter and that is ready to send- I presume I send it without delay? All the original photos showed the terms, the car park and where I was parked. I thought I had loaded them as pdfs but they seem to have gone missing. The NTK and Windscreen notices are still there in previous posts. I can add a plan of the car park layouts I think that might help. I didnt find out if it was Railway land as I wasn't sure how to do that. I remember looking and feeling I was up against a brick wall. Is there e a reminder anywhere of how to do it please? I will head up to the car park later today and get clearer ones of the terms and conditions- I think someone commented they weren't very clear so I can try again. I can reload all the photos if that will help? Please advise on next steps. Thank you
  9. Thanks for the reassurance dx. I will come back to it fresh in the morning and just go step by step as you suggest....
  10. I hope this answers all the questions on your link. I understand I must now acknowledge the claim online? Name of the Claimant Vehicle Control Services Ltd 2 Europa Court, Sheffield Business Park, Sheffield. S9 1XE claimants Solicitors: Not provided. Date of issue – 14th October Date to acknowledge) = 2nd November date to submit defence = 15th November What is the claim for Particulars of claim. The claim is for breach of contract for breaching the terms and conditions set on private land. The defendant’s vehicle XXXXXXX was identified in this Centro Canley Business Park on the 20/05/ 2019 in breach of the advertised terms and conditions; namely parked beyond the bay markings. At all material times the defendant was the registered keeper / driver. The terms and conditions upon entering private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent locations. The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct. The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the consequences of failure to comply, namely a parking charge notice will be issued, and Defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability. The claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest. What is the value of the claim? £185.00 (Court fee £25, Amount claimed £160) Has the claim been issued by the Private parking Company or was the PCN assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim ? By the Claimant: Vehicle Control Services Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I am not aware of a Notice of Assignment. I have not received one. I have just read the what to do section. I see I have to enter a plea. Can I say, although I am the keeper, I wasn't the driver -as I was with a neighbour being dropped off at the train station. There were no spaces so I parked in a small area quite safely, not blocking anything and next to a parking bay. In addition we were only staying for the time it took to get my cases to the station, less than 10 minutes, I did not accept their terms and conditions which didn't come into force until after a 10 minute stay? It all looks so complicated from now I feel defeated but £185 is a lot to pay when I could have got away with just £60 at the time. Is it worth continuing?
  11. HI Sorry to say I'm back again with this one that I hoped might have gone away. It seems not. I have today received a claim form which I've attached. Also I have attached the terms and conditions from the car park and the Claim Particulars. A ny advice on what to do please? I have not corresponded with VCS in any way. There is no evidence that I was the driver that I am aware of. There are no photos on their website other than of my car. Thank you.
  12. I wondered if anyone has had chance over the weekend to look at my post ? I was asking if I need do anything at this stage or wait for VCS to contact me again? Thanks very much.
  13. Great advice-thats what I hoped I could say. Next question - when do I do that? Is this the sitting and waiting bit now having collected all the bits and pieces I need? Is there anything else I need to do for now?
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