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TMJ 30 There have been a few threads lately that are similar to your predicament. For advice, experience and peace of mind look up
Text message - bailiff calling tomorrow
Drakes/Marstons broke my lock (particularly the link to Devon & Cornwall police)
What bailiffs can and cannot do
Scared and need some help
You'll feel a lot better after reading these.
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Of course they won't do anything if they can get away with it. To do so means taking responsibility which is precisely what they are avoiding here.
Pay then direct in the manner prescribed. They have to take it BY LAW.
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Pleased but not surprised that the bailiff failed to turn up yesterday. If he was playing mind games with you that would another avenue of torture. After all if he has a job to do, why didn't he come? Why didn't he text to say he wouldn't?
Watch out for the b.gg..'s return today.
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You must keep up your strength and confidence. This bailiff knows that intimidation works which is presumably why he texted you.
Relax with a cuppa and see to the little un. Far more important than a bully who may or may not arrive and who you have no obligation to speak to.
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Oh lamma - if only I had your faith in solicitors' self regulatory bodies.......
Actually I am quite happy with the end result. Whenever Trethowans come across our scheme in future, they'll know that they will never receive a penny from the members and that there is nothing that they can do about it.
That's precisely the message I'm trying to impart.
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Council won't take back the debt?
Make them.
Bailiffs are their servants not their masters.
Pay the council direct and tell them that you want every penny to go to council tax and nowhere else. They are duty bound to accept.
Never contact bailiffs and don't pay a penny towards their 'fees'. They have no court order for them
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Still no word from D. Bantten or the DVLA's ghost 'crime policy team'. Time to wrap this one up as Trethowans clearly do not have anything meaningful or logical to say.
Their bluff was called and they lost.
Time for them to crawl back and hide.
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No need. They have a habit of finding you.
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NEVER contact a bailiff!
Further you only owe what is written on the liability order and not a penny more. No bailiffs fess will be written into that order. Yes bailiffs can ASK for fees by law, but they cannot enforce them.
Pay the council direct and make sure that the council understands that the money you send is for council tax and no other reason. They must accept it.
Take no notice of officious council employees.
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Well any bailiff should understand this short clear message.
In this country we do not licence, approve or otherwise authorise private citizens to force entry in other's houses.
That is the road to Kristalnacht and not common sense.
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The council is duty bound to accept what you can afford. Further if you pay them direct, you can avoid bailiff charges because you only owe what is on your liability order. Not a penny more.
If you did owe any more by law to the bailiffs, it would written on that order.
Never talk to bailiffs for any reason and don't let the council tell you that they cannot deal with it 'because it is in the hands of the bailiffs'. The bailiffs are their appointed servants, not their masters.
And don't let me get into the debate about the council passing your private details onto private citizens without your knowledge or consent and in contravention of the Data Protection Act 1998.
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If changing locks is not eviction, then why would you need a locksmith when if force is allowed you could kick a door in or break a window?
I can only guess that Mr McKenna has not thought this through because he has never actually used a locksmith. Thus he doesn't seem to realise that he would have to look a family straight in the eye after he had evicted them. Indeed he doesn't seem to realise that private citizens tampering with another's door is criminal damage.
Further the person inside could barricade the door, then the bailiff would have to resort to the measures described in paragraph one.
I wonder what the parting comment would be for some bailiffs in such a case. 'Serves you right?' 'I hope that has spoiled your day?' or 'Here is our leaflet on getting rehoused?'
C'mon John quote us the statute that allows such thuggish behaviour.
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Bailiffs can indeed collect money from you for TV licence fine, but they cannot force entry into your property to do so
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No you can't go to prison. Only refusing to pay and willful negligence are grounds. Neither apply to you and you are right - the bailiff doesn't decide. The council can apply, but its long winded and on the information here, they would fail. So they are hardly likely to apply. In any event you would be notified of their application and given a day in court. Don't worry.
If the bailiff turns up tomorrow and you are in, stare at him through a closed window. Don't say anything. He'll soon get the message as to who is really in charge, and eventually he'll have to go. They find silence the hardest thing to deal with.
Or be out and let them stew.
And never talk to them again, because that feeds them.
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So now you can be evicted for not allowing a bailiff to put their foot in your door.
Is that what they teach you in bailiff school today John McKenna?
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Bingowings. The bailiff cannot enter your property unless you invite them to or leave a door or window open.
Nor can they enter if you are out and the house is locked. (Khazanchi v. Faircharm Investments 1998 )
Go to mom's - she probably thinks it's been far too long since you last visited.
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Indeed it is and yes, I agree it's ignorance of the law that bailiffs feed upon
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Thats my point dear narrow minded bailiff, the only reason to change locks is to exclude somebody from their property.
This person was being threatened with having that done over a TV licence.
Please explain why you feel that your employers are right to send out letters threatening eviction over a TV licence.
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It might be of benefit for those interested in this thread to refer to a similar experience under 'Drakes Bailiffs - what goes around comes around'. The last posting was June 21st.
It may under parking and traffic offences.
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I see that there is an updated version of the D & C policy. Mine is dated Jan 2007 and therefore is different from the June 2008 version now available.
Much the same message though, but with one fateful alteration. It refers to 'warrants' from the county court. As already explained on this thread, county courts issue 'Orders' and not 'warrants' except to their own bailiffs.
Still this force is an example to others.
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There's no good reason for them not to.
At the moment we have the inexplicable situation where police are assisting criminal behaviour by bailiffs when they are not being so apathetic to finding out what the law states.
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Tell me John McKenna and with reference to your post confirming the possible use of 'locksmiths', since when has eviction been authorised by courts in relation to the collection of any debt connected to a tv licence?
Indeed would any bailiff care to answer this?
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When you have no authority, you only have space left for building on lies and deceit.
Have you looked at the Devon & Cornwall Constab website - and are you going to make your local police do their jobs?
If not - the bailiff won't care.
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It doesn't really matter if you do act like Waynetta Slob in your property. It was your house and not the bailiffs to treat like a toilet.
Help Swift credits baliffs!
in Bailiffs - Help with Dealing with Bailiffs and Enforcement Agents including HCEO
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Kelley - go to TMJ 30's thread - 'Bailiff and Locksmith' and follow the line to the other relevant threads.
Read these and you too will feel a lot better