Fair enough but what I like to know where can I challenge this because I am not happy and believe to hard done by.

Adjudicator decision was based on that Council have displayed the correct sign which is questionable on it own.

Not that I didn't challenged correctly or any thing else. Nor I had the information at that time that my neighbour PCN appeal has been allowed.

If I had that information with me before the adjudicator was going to review my case maybe outcome would have been different.

Anyway my issue or advice I am trying to receive is that Law should be equal when circumstances are same I emphasis again "when circumstances are same" outcome of any decision should be same as well.

The law is the same for everyone, but everyone's circumstances are different somehow. There might be a reason why his was cancelled, which does not apply to you - maybe he had a medical emergency, maybe the contravention printed on his PCN was wrong, maybe his vehicle was broken down, maybe the PCN wasn't served to him - and so on.

 

You presented your reasons why your PCN should be cancelled, and they said that those reasons weren't sufficient. His appeal would have been different to yours.

None of the above applies because when we both left our car in suspended bays in question, suspension started at 18.30 on the day in question and PCN were issued to my car at 1834 and my neighbour car at 1835.

We both did came across the PCN next morning about the same time and decided to challenge for same reason.

That's what makes matter worse and I feel hard done by, maybe one or 2 things we may have different to each other but most of the point were same, main thing which need to be focus on is Council phoned or wrote to PATAS couple of days before the case was suppose to appear in front of Adjudicator and informed that Council is not contesting this PCN. If they can do for one they should do same for the other as well in which case its my PCN.

Even if they did review it, the fact that the Council let someone else of for the same contravention is not grounds for cancelling your PCN.

I don't know if this sound right but my point is

• If council issue 2 PCN same time, same date and for same reason on cars parked next to each other however don't contest one and other get full penalised
  

I thought justice system need to equal to everyone. I have provided the proof and letter from the claimant whom PCN have been cancelled. Why can't Adjudicator and Council can accept and either cancel both or neither.

Maybe I am wrong but I believe law should be same for every one.

Need Urgent help regarding my case about PCN issued while Parking bay was suspended. I have used this forum and found relavent information which I sent to Local Authority.

I received rejection letter and sent again appeal to Local Authority with further evidence.

Rejection letter was issued by Local Authority and few days later Notice to owner without any form of appeal process.

Wrote again and received appeal documents and sent to PATAS with lots of information and even letter from Department of Transport confirming Local Authority didn't have applied for Traffic Sign to Suspend the bay.

Appeal was refused by Adjudicator Michael Burke saying that Local Authority have displayed correct sign and there is no reason to refuse the appeal.

I asked for review because I came across new information which was

• at the time I was issued PCN my neighbour was issued PCN same time, same date and for same contravention.
  
• Local Authority day before when my neighbour case was due to appear in front of Adjudicator decided not contest the appeal.
  
• I provided the same information to PATAS and asked for the review.
  
• PATAS Manger wrote to me that after reviewed by another Adjudicator his reply is that (Michael Burke first Adjudicator who reviewed my case) Adjudicator couldn't have that information therefore his intial decision still stand.
  

I wrote again to PATAS explaining that's why I asked to reviewed the decision because there was new evidence. But again received same letter that their is no ground to review and if I am not happy I should ask for High Court Judicial review.

Sent few letters to Local Authority asking to cancel the PCN but getting no where.

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What you think should be the case has no relevance. If restrictions are in place then they are what the restrictions are. If you have an opinion that they should be changed then you approach your local Councillor or Council. This can't help your case.

 

what exactly are you intending to "fight"? once the Adjudicator has ruled then that is it - you pay. there are some limited reasons for asking for a review of the case but in this situation I ould think that a)you would be denied or b0 you may incur costs for vexatious behaviour.

 

The only thing i noticed in your Adjuducation that may have some relevance was that you suggested the relevant order was invalid? This doesn't appear to have been addressed by the Adjudicator. Did you view the Traffic Mangemennt Order and find it invalid - and then submit it in evidence - or were you just chancing it?

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I am fighting that it’s wrong to blocked two big bay (approximately over 15 car parking) for either one or two trucks/vans in the morning or at any time. I think it’s not right to accept this restriction just because it’s been placed there by council. My common sense tells me that these bay needs to be amended so part of it can be Restricted for Loading/Unloading and part of it for paying customer. Surely council can benefit from extra revenue and people like me who like to shop first thing in the morning can benefit from convenient parking especially with children.

I was issued pcn on Saturday morning, because I parked in Loading/unloading bay from Mon to Sat between 07:00 till 10:00.

I have been going Green Street for very long time and as far I can remember those were parking bay. When they were changed I don't know however in my recent visits to Green St (East London) I have been noticing that only one or two mini trucks or vans come to deliver the goods. I believe, to restrict two bays (one with capacity of 5 or 6 cars and second with 10 or 12 cars) is unfair and that should be change to part of restricted for Lording/Unloading and part of should be from paying parking customer. I appealed against this PCN to Adjudicator and that appeal is been turned down. Needs help how to fight.

Please see below Adjudicator's reason,

Only accept as a partial settlement and tell them you are continuing for the rest. They will eventually pay it all, but it is a slow and frustrating process!

Thanks for the reply and will be further grateful if can be shown the way to take it further. I have looked in the templates but haven't found anything suitable so bit of help needed here.

Thanks

I requested MBNA to pay me over £900 in charges and I have been offered £340 as goodwill. Just wondering, should I accept that or decline and ask for full money. I will be really grateful for any help. Thanks

Naslam, what was the time this PCN was issued? Was you picking up or dropping off your kids at the time?

 

 

Do you park on the zigzags (when the children are entering/exiting school) on a regular basis, or was this the first time you have ever done it?

 

 

If the PCN is cancelled, will you park on the zigzags again?

 

 

 

You do not of course have to answer these questions, but they would be interesting to know. I am sure there are school governers, head teachers, teachers, classroom assistants, parents, lollipop men/women etc pulling their hair out on a daily basis because of people parking on zigzags, and one less person doing it is a step in the right direction to eliminate it altogether.

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I parked there around 08:54 and was back in car 08.59 also there is more than enough space in between barriers and my car for childrens and parents to enter school without causing obstruction.

No I don't park at zigzag, I have maybe parked couple times in my dropping and picking my children in last 5 years. I am one of those parents who go and wait outside the school 20 minutes early so can park.

I haven't park there since than and got no intention of doing, also PCN hasn't been cancled either.

 

Oh come on!

 

I bet there have been times "when you knew better" than the authorities about the maximum safe speed to travel at and exceeded the speed limit. That is more serious and is also a criminal matter.

 

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

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Very well put, and by the way authorities are same as us human who think like us and made decision like us and we can think the same way or some time better. Don't you feel at some point that authority’s logic is wrong or wrongly applied? I am not saying the yellow zigzags are wrong or children safety is not a concern here, of course there safety is first priority. If the penalty ticket is correctly served than I will pay because I am at fault but if it hasn't been done correctly than I should not pay. Also I presented the mitigating circumstances which they should accept, but they have been rejected and been ask to pay £50.00 which I don't have and later increased to £100.00. I even asked that we can come to some kind of payment plan so I can pay in small figure but council is not interested at this point.

I totally agree.

 

If, however, the PCN is cancelled, then I think it's important to ensure the OP thinks twice about parking there again. After all, surely nothing is more important than the safety of the children.

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Surely nobody wants to harm children, when I said, I park toward the end of yellow zigzag I truly mean towards the end and I have two of my own children, care and love I have for my own children I care same way about other people's children because I don't want any harm to any of the children either mine or any body else. Children’s are very precious to me and I believe they are to all parents.

Get a copy of the TRO. The vast majority of these yellow zig-zags are simply painted on the road without the expense and inconvenience of a TRO,

 

Without a TRO they are unenforceable - beyond a ticket (FPN) for obstruction by a PC or police traffic warden (or a PCSO if the appropriate power to issue is authorise).

Sorry every thing gone is above my head. First of all thanks for the reply and your time, second if you can explain in plain english for me I will be grateful.

Thanks

I have been reading this forum for quite some time and would like to say THANK YOU to all for sharing, advising and guiding to resolve all type of matters.

I have written to my Local Council about the parking ticket issued outside the school parked on Yellow Zigzag lines towards the end where I am not blocking any thing or putting children at risk. However I would be grateful if some body can advice me, DO I have chance of not paying this ticket or I have to pay. My personal circumstances are I am unemployed at the moment and no saving. Looking for Job but in the mean time can't pay the ticket. So I will be grateful if some body can guide me. Thanks