Well it's now 6 weeks since I had the debt recovery letter from Hunter Forest and replied asking them to refer the alleged debt back to UKPC as it was still in dispute. They have not attempted to contact me in any way. I am fairly confident that this is the last I will hear from them. Thanks for all the help Chris

I have managed to find a link to the local paper article on UKPCs activities in Solatron Retail Park in Farnborough: CAR FINES 'A CHEAT' - Surrey Hants Star Read and enjoy! thanks chris

I have now taken further action against UKPC, reporting them to Trading Standards, the Local MP (Gerald Howeth) and the property management company for Solatron Retail park, Legal and General. I have so far had a positive reply back from Gerald Howeths secretary stating there have been a number of complaints about UKPCs behavior and the issue was featured on the front page of one of the local newspapers over the weekend. My objective is to get UKPC off of Solatron Business Park for good. thanks Chris

It was in Farnborough, Hampshire I'm afraid. Just found a few more people who have been stung at the very same car park for the same reason I was today on the forums... thanks Chris

Congratulations! This gives me a good feeling about my 'invoice'. My alleged breach of contract happened on the same retail park in Farnborough for exactly the same reason...does it have a Maplins on the park? You can follow my thread here: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/127879-private-ticketing-company-ticket.html I found this site and have followed the templates all the way so far. They've handed it over to their debt collection people now, but they are not getting a penny out of me for this. If I do go to court (which is highly unlikely) it would be handy to have a case similar to mine where they have backed down. So if you are willing to share your experience in a little more detail if mine goes all the way I would appreciate it. In any case it would be great to get UKPC kicked out of that car park if at all possible. It irritates me to thing that so many people will have caved in and paid them rather than fight it. thanks Chris

I had the debt collection letter on Friday 29th Feb, asking me to settle approximately £115 immediately. I have not got the letter to hand, it's at home filed in the folder I have in case this ends up in court. They even used the words 'penalty' and 'offense' a number of times in the letter, and to me it looks like they are trying to make it look as official as possible. I replied using the 'Debt Collection' Template in these forums asking them to refer the case back to ticketing company, and telling them to cease all correspondence with me. All correspondence I have sent to date has been 'signed for'...I don't want them denying receipt of any of my letters. There is no way I am going to cave in to them. They still have not provided any evidence to prove it was me driving and that if I was I left the trading park whilst parked there (which is what they invoiced me for). Anyhow just thought I would keep you all up to date.... thanks Chris

As I mentioned in my previous post I sent letter 3, cease and desist about a week ago, UKPC have sent me a Final Reminder increasing the charge to £90 and threatening further charges if I do not pay. One of the things the Final Notice says 'As owner/keeper of the vehicle you are legally liable to pay the parking charge even if you were not the driver at the time'. I am guessing they are talking twaddle with this statement. Should I send another letter now or should I ignore it (as I have already told them to cease and desist)? thanks Chris

I got a reply from UKPC today, this is letter No 3 in two weeks if you include the initial invoice. It does not address any of the issues I raised in my previous two letters and seems to be some bullcrap stock response: Dear Sir Thank you for your recent communication concerning the above parking charge notice. Please rest assured that our appeals manager has personally reviewed this case and carefully considered the various points raised. Our view, however, is that these particular circumstances are neither unreasonable nor unjust and so we will not be waiving this parking charge in full. You will be aware from the parking charge notice that we offer a 50% discount for parking charges paid within 7 days. As you lodged an appeal, we are prepared to extend this period for another 14 days from the date of this letter. But if we do not receive your remittance at the reduced rate by 15th February 2008, the full amount will then become payable and we will put the matter in the hands of our debt recovery agents. We appreciate that this is not the outcome you will have hoped for. Unless you have any additional information that you have not already brought to our attention, this decision is final. Although further correspondence will be noted and filed, please do not expect any response from us except where you have provided evidence to substantiate your case. We hope you will take advantage of the extended 50% discount period and send your remittance promptly. Yours faithfully PCN Appeals Department I think it's time for the cease and desist letter. It would seem they have no evidence to prove who was driving. I will send the stock letter unless anybody has a better idea. thanks Chris

OK I have used a couple of the selectable paragraphs from the second template letter. I will send this to them today. Will keep you posted. thanks Chris

Here is the wording: Dear Sir, With Reference to the above Parking Charge Notice. As the registered keeper/owner of the vehicle at the time of the contravention you are responsible for the payment of the Parking Charge Notice. There are sufficient signs within this area warning vehicle owners that should they leave their vehicle unattended without permission this will result in a PCN being issued by post. yours faithfully PCN Parking Appeals Department I am going to use the template for the second letter with the relevant paragraphs. Any suggestions as to anything else I could add would be greatly appreciated. thanks Chris

OK folks I have started my battle with UKPC. The first template letter has been sent to them recorded delivery. I am keeping all correspondence, receipts and recorded delivery tickets in a file, with the full intention of having a bit of a fight on my hands. Hopefully within a few letters they will provide me any evidence they have to prove I was driving, otherwise they can disappear up their own bumholes. Having read many of the UKPC posts I am fully prepared (I hope) for any crap they throw my way, and if needs be i'll take 'em to court...although I don't think it will go that far. Thanks for all the help so far...I'll let you know how it goes. Chris

OK I have an update and would greatly appreciate some advice. I got the letter today and the issuing company is UKPC. They have asked me to pay £45 within 14 days or the full sum of £90 within 28 days. They also suggest a representation can be made within 7 days of notice in writing to a PO box address in Iver. I would like to upload scans of the 'Charge Certificate' and the 'Notification of Unauthorised Parking' that was placed on my car, however as I suspect these companies snoop this forum I am a little concerned that it would tip them off. As previously discussed my contravention was down to the fact the driver parked on the retail park and left to visit another shop before visiting Maplins which is on the retail park that ticketed the driver. This ticket tells me 'I am in contravention of the parking control measures in place at the time' and the box that is ticked says Vehicle owner left site. I do have a receipt from Maplins to prove the fact that is within 20 minutes of the Notification being placed on my car The photo on the Charge Certificate does not show me leaving the site, although they may still have one of me doing so up their sleeve. What is the best way to handle this based on these facts?: 1- The Driver did not approach the ticket placer even though I saw him up to his tricks, so there is no confrontation to contend with. 2- The Driver could argue that he/she has a receipt for a visit to one of the shops on site , although they will still argue the driver left site. However I guess they would have to prove it. 3- The signs were pretty small and the driver actually failed to notice them..I am going to pop out there to check them out, but wondered if there is any point arguing this point. 4- I am concerned that I will end up paying £90 after a lot of harassment from them so was considering paying up £45 and writing it off to experience, although I do feel like I am being blackmailed by them because of this. thanks Chris:mad:

Thanks for the welcome, I think I have found a gem of a forum here. If I win this I'll donate half of the 14 day charge (£20 or so) to maintaining this forum.... Anyway to answer your question I am sure it's not Eurocarparks. I have a feeling it's something like UK Parking.... i'll post it tonight, together with details of the document. thanks Chris

Thanks for that...i noticed after I posted it there was a specific place where this should have been posted..I refrained from posting again as that would be a second transgression on my part... sorry! Chris

Hi I have not got all the details with me so I will post extra information in this thread when I am at home tonight, I just wanted to see what views you clever lot have initially. Here's what happened. My car was parked at the local Maplins in my local town on Saturday whilst visiting that store and a PC World store on an adjacent trading park. As the driver later found out there is a rule that if you leave the trading park on foot you will be liable for a penalty charge. The Maplins visited was on that trading park. After returning from PC World and Maplins the driver had received a ticket. The ticket indicated the driver had been observed leaving the trading park and therefore had been issued a penalty charge of about £90, or £45 if the keeper pay within 14 days. This ticket was issued by a private ticketing company, I'll update you with the name later. The notice the notice received is not actually a ticket and has no contact number other than the DVLA and stated that the registered owner would receive the ticket in the post. I believe all the details were recorded correctly on the notice the driver was given, although the notice number was torn off at the top of the slip so there was only half the number The driver also have a receipt from the Maplins store timed at 11:40. The ticket was issued at 11:20. What is the best way of dealing with this? Needless to say I do not want to or intend on paying it if at all possible. thanks Chris