Fetch, that is a brilliant piece of investigation and responding letter .. I was "caught" at the same car park two days earlier (Chinese New Year's day .. Sunday 18th February at 10PM after a CNY dinner and five hours after the Lidl store had closed) Athena do not respond to emails, you can call them on premium rate phone lines and they have just sent me one of their threatening pseudo legal forms. I will use your letter as a template for my next response to them. Many thanks and all the best dimple