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So, no response from X4L and I thought this had gone away! And then...
Letter from the Harlands-at-another-desk people CRS...
So the good news that sounds like they consider my gym membership cancelled. The bad news is they are now fishing for as much money as possible. Was considering a letter along the lines of...
- You cannot take any further action on this as the amount is in dispute
- I am willing to make a payment of £9.99 in full and final settlement. This constitutes one month's notice.
- I consider any additional charges from yourselves to be punitive illegal penalties
Am I in the right ballpark or should I be doing something else?
Cheer in advance,
QB
- You cannot take any further action on this as the amount is in dispute
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Update from X4L...
Although the minimum number of payments may have been made by your self we still require 30 days written notice of cancellation from yourself in club.
Having cancelled your contract will have triggered an automatic charge from Harlands as we cancel down your DD via our head office and Harlands upon written notice of cancellation from yourself.
Therefore Harlands will still require the 30 days notice (1 months gym payment) to cancel down completely and stop chasing, this is the cheaper option than the cancelled DD charges.
If you need any further explanation please contact me in club.
No idea what he's on about there! What's my next move?
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Thanks folks, appreciate the help. The email was from SnapDDA who it turns out is just another name for Harlands! I'll get that letter sent off tomorrow and keep you informed. Cheers!
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Hi all,
Another victim of Harlands here! Was following slick's outstanding advice and thought everything was going well but having read a few horror stories I thought I'd check what my next move should be.
Long story short:
Cancelled my direct debit after 11 months, not 12 (oops). This was the end of April.
Got the Harlands "you didn't pay your May instalment so now owe us two months' subscription plus a £25 default fee" letter on 18 May.
Panicked, rang around a bit, told the X4L branch on the phone I wanted to cancel, was referred to the X4L membership team (in another office - Leeds?) who agreed that I could cancel if I paid a £29.99 on-the-spot admin fee - I asked for a full breakdown of this admin fee and the best the manager could do was that it was "for contacting Harlands". I thought "hang on, this sounds a bit dodgy", I want to find out more about this...
...and Google sent me here!
18 June I got the Harlands "you owe us three months' subscription plus a £50 default fee" letter.
Checked my direct debit email they sent me and it contains these lines...
You are committing to a single £0.00 admin fee payment and £9.99 per month for a minimum of 11 months. [Only 11 months?! WINNER!]
Your first payment will be collected on or just after 16 June 2014 for an amount of £9.99 which consists of a joining fee of £0.00 and the first monthly payment of £9.99.
Subsequent monthly payments of £9.99 will commence on 16 July 2014 and continue on or just after the same day of each month thereafter.
I pinged off this in reply (I hope it is OK! Sent recorded delivery)...
I refer to your letter dated 18 June 2015 regarding my former membership of the Xercise 4 Less gym.
I cancelled my direct debit mandate at the end of April 2015 as is my right under the direct debit guarantee. This was adequate notice of my intention to cancel, and was after the 11 month commitment prescribed in the terms of my membership. Please see the attached email from SnapDDA, a trading style of Harlands Services Ltd, confirming the payment schedule of 11 monthly payments from 16 June 2014 to 16 April 2015.
As such no further payments are required from me. I expect no further demands from Harlands Services Ltd.
Please liaise with Xercise 4 Less to ensure that my cancellation is noted on all relevant systems. Obviously in your role as the administration company for Xercise 4 Less you are subject to the legal precedents stipulating that you process cancellations (see the 2011 High Court case OFT v Ashbourne Management Services Ltd) and have an obligation to act upon such notices.
Wasn't expecting to hear anything from them but got a letter saying...
We cannot cancel the agreement you have with X4L as they deal with them directly at the branch. You must either contact them in store or over the phone to cancel the agreement. We strongly advise that you get this confirmation in writing...[blah blah blah]You will need to send this information to X4L directly as we do not deal with cancellations.
[branch contact details]
We will await to hear from you regarding a cancellation.
Now I'm confused. Next move, anyone?
(Just FYI when I get Harlands off my back I'm totally donating my £25 admin fee to this site - brilliant work, helped me loads already, thank you!)
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OK, this never went away (I kept getting threatening letters and the amount went up and up) and I wanted to give as much information as possible as I have taken legal advice that I think people in a similar situation may find useful.
They're total f-ing sc*mbags but they've won here. I rang them and got the £180 fee knocked down to £75. Could have saved myself time, money, and stress just paying half of that straight away, but £75 is far, far cheaper than solicitors/court fees/risk of a CCJ. Yes it's Harlands intimidation tactics, but what they're doing is legal so I have to suck it up.