I've had a very similar experience more or less to the same dates as you,

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?470109-Parki-with-ease-(white-moss-rydal)

alleged breach towards the end of august,

out of time NTK

and a reminder on the 24th December.

I've complained to the land owner about the parking operator,

even involved the local MP and sent an appeal telling them where they've gone wrong

but still got the reminder for the first amount which I assumed should have gone up again by now all on a letter which isn't signed by anyone,

also never received any evidence or a response to my appeal

As we know, PWE don't follow PoFA so if they try it on at court, they must be able to prove who was the driver, not assume that you were. Remember, anyone can drive your car so long as they have insurance and your permission.

Did you send your appeal via the website or by post. If by post, did you get a proof of posting or did you send it recorded delivery?

 

This I'm afraid is standard practice for parking companies to say they didn't receive the letter.

 

Of course they are chancing their arm. The Christmas bonus may just depend on one more mug paying up.

It was sent via email and received an automated response saying it would be dealt with but nothing more afterwards

Hi all , just an update to this particular case.

An appeal was sent within the allocated timescale to do so and we have heard absolutely nothing from this until

today when a reminder has been posted to out dated 20 Dec saying the amount still needs paying,

are the slot just chancing their arm now as we had no response from the appeal

I was actually considering contacting someone who's responsible for POFA to suggest a few ideas which would make parking charges more fairer but I wouldn't know who to contact

Whilst awaiting the response for my appeal I decided to contact the local MP for the area which the car park is in, he took my complaint on board and contacted both the parking management company and the land owner and they have hid behind data protection and declined to discuss the case with him so he can't do any more, the land owner said that complaints are always dealt with promptly and fairly but all they done in my case was pass on my details with the management company, I'm starting to think the land owners are in on this [problem] aswell

I am ignoring from now on, I just wondered where they stood by not adhering to POFA and admitting doing so

Yeah we are ignoring but where do they actually stand admitting they don't comply with POFA

I sent a letter on the 21st day telling the parking company there is no liability due to the fact POFA time lines hadn't been adhered to and am awaiting a response,

today I have been in contact with someone else who had a similar charge on the same alleged date,

I have seen a copy of there PCN and the dates the same but they have already gone through the appeal stage and they have had a rejection letter pretty much covering every aspect of appeal,

they are also stating that they have not claimed to and are not seeking to pursue the matter through POFA

I've received a second letter today saying my 14 days is up for the reduced amount, again the letter date and date of service was days apart. It again can't prove it as the envelope doesn't have a date stamped on it, when I appeal which I've realised I have until next Tuesday should I keep my points small and hold back on the actual facts and save the facts for my second appeal

Have they ever won at court if it's ever gone that far

Thanks for the replies by the way, good help

What does that mean, I'm thick

Sweet, that's something else they've gifted me then, they're an IPC lot I must add by the way, if that makes a difference. I notice for things such as signage the code of practice is cleverly written and doesn't mention size of fonts or anything too technical

Can anyone tell me whether the invoice has to include photo proof with it being ANPR and how does the landowners loss differ from the parking agents loss

I've just had a reply off the land owner suggesting I follow the appeals process with park with ease and they have nothing to do with the management, I'm starting to think they are following this thread

I followed some advice from another forum who suggested complaining to the land owner which I did,

after my initial complaint they asked for my charge ref number and my name so they can investigate for me,

I sent that unwittingly

afterwards received a very brief email saying they were forwarding all my details to the parking agent,

bearing in mind I complained about the machines not working for me in my initial complaint

I think I have been tricked into admitting liability by the land owner, what do you think?

The initial parking charge was addressed to my partner as the cars in her name

but I was the one who was driving and tomorrow is the last date in which to start an appeal

I've just had correspondence from the land owner to say that they can see the machines were all in working order for cards and cash on the date of the alleged breach, it's obvious who's side they are on

I've had a look around,

they do seem to be working to a certain ''code''

but not many of the threads detail a conclusion,

any help with regards to an appeal would be greatly appreciated,

I have photos from a previous instance with this car park showing my ref not being recognised,

has to be card payments and the card machine being off aswell so they've been doing it for a while

What was the outcome of this case

The date of infringement is 30th of August

The date on the NTK is tuesday 20th September

The date received was 28th September

It doesn't mention sched 4 of the protection of freedoms act

but it mentions the road vehicles (reg and liscensing) reg 2002

There is no photo evidence or any proof whatsoever except two times outlined for entry and exit

I haven't appealed yet but I am planning on doing so

The parking company is park with ease and they are associated with the IAS for appeals

Received a notice from park with ease for a parking charge dated 30th August,

notice is made out on 20th September and I received it on 29th September.

They are members of the IPC and apparently reject nearly all appeals.

Where do I stand for this

This is a short section of advice from another website which i chose to follow....

If you do not wish to provide the name and address of the driver (and there is no legal obligation to do so)

, the PPC must have complied with all of the following procedural steps in order to be able to recover the parking charge from you.

If you know that the PPC has failed to follow the steps below, then you can choose to decline to give the drivers details with impunity; the choice is yours.

If you do choose to decline you should advise the PPC just where it has failed to comply with POFA, but after the end of the period for service of the notice to keeper.

If you were to advise the PPC too early then the PPC can re-serve the notice to keeper which is compliant with the Act.

The RK has chosen not to identify the driver with impunity because in our case they hadnt delivered the notice to keeper within the time period outlined in POFA regs,

all the correspondance which proves the dates have been kept.

No, i can assure you i am no troll, the RK is my girlfriend who i live with who hands me the letters when they arrive as she says their nothing to do with her so when i put on here i have received whatever its because i have received it, i have it handed to me by the RK. l

I have received a letter from GPB solicitors today,

has anyone had any experience with these guys yet,

i understand they are new kids on the block,

i also understand that this letter i have received is not a LBA it is merely a template with several things missing

which would make it personal to me,

i have just been reading the POFA requirements again and i feel like replying to roxburghe informing them that they did not meet these requirements

and also that the PPC didnt meet the requirements of the BPA code of practice to see how they respond, is this wise or not.

Ive had Roxburghe in court twice and won !!!

 

They currently have their credit consumer license minded to refuse by the OFT pending appeal.

 

I smell a rat when it comes to them... They used to use Graham White Solicitors AKA Michael Sobell same address as roxburghe and used to fire out template letters using his name to scare people to pay promptly.

 

They have somehow now linked up with a GPB solicitors of stratford upon avon who now also appear on the Law Societys website as being registered at roxburghe...as well as stratford upon avon

 

When I telephoned Roxburghe and asked to speak to GPB who supposedly have an office in the same address, I got the same old crap... send an emai......Roxburghe or GPB dont have any intrest in the land in question and there is a legal trainee called msbah zahid who used to operate for white so dont correspond

What were your court wins for, what points did you use to win aswell.

I have ignored and now received my roxburge letter yesterday, lets see what happens in the coming weeks