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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Hi Peeps

 

Started my claim with A & L mid March 2007 using templates from a BBC article on line as an 'estimated' claim (£5000) as I only had last 3 years statements.

 

I got the usual fob off letter from A & L so proceeded with N1 claim which I filed with my local county court on 13th April 2007.

 

Wragge & co acknowledged my claim and then sent their usual 'Defence'.

 

I then discovered Martin Lewis's site and CAG and after hours of reading I discovered that 'estimated' claims were not a good idea so I paid £35 to have my claim amended with court (form N244) and changed my claim amount to tie in with the statements I had (£3700) and also amended my Particulars of Claim (using the template from here).

 

Opened a parachute account and sent off S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) letter to A & L.

 

Wragge & Co filed their AQ with court and I filed mine on 19th May 2007.

 

I received my statements from A & L so I worked out my charges for the other 3 years which took my total claim for the full 6 years back up to £4900.

 

I had my claim transferred to Leeds Mercantile Court early June and applied to amend my claim again (N244) to the new amount (this cost me £65) .

 

I was in court yesterday for Case Management Conference and A&L didn't attend and no stay applied for so Judge has given directions for hearing in October 2007.

 

Keep you posted...

 

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Hi scoobz - I expect you will get an official letter from the court telling you all that you need to do? probably your bundle - so in that case you do have to send a copy to Wragges as well.

 

I sent my bundle to Wragges anyway - even though the case had been stayed and I had not had hearing - just to show them i meant business- maybe thats what did the trick- i :confused: will never know:)

 

There is a new court bundle - much better than the one I sent - I will post link. Unfortunately you will probably do all the work - and get an offer just before court date - but thats the way they play the game:mad:

 

jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

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Advanced court bundle

 

 

in case you need it

 

 

jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

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Hiya Scoobz, good luck. I received a bog standard letter today from A&L re oft test case...same as whats on their website. Doesnt say they're asking for stays.

 

Jen xx

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Thanks Jan and Jen....

 

I'm going to get started on my bundle when little one is back at school tomoz (thanks for the link Jan).....

 

Jen, I really do hope that you get sorted in October, if they don't turn up again then I would request strike out (you may have to do the official application??) or ask for directions for a hearing a.s.a.p. Wonder how many will be at there? Have your heard of any other A&L ones??

 

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Hi Scoobz, Have'nt heard of any more for the 4th yet but its still early days. I've thought of trying to negotiate with Wraggies but we'll see xx

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Hi Peeps, Nearly finished my court bundles ready to hand in at court on Tues 11/09/07 and to send to Wragge & Co.

 

Received a lovely letter from Wragge & Co this morning, an exact copy of the same blabla one that A&L sent me a couple of weeks ago just stating all the facts about the OFT Test Case and that complaints are being put 'on hold' until the outcome.

 

Wraggies state that 'WE INTEND TO APPLY TO THE COURT ON ALLIANCE & LEICESTER'S BEHALF FOR AN ORDER TO STAY YOUR ACTION UNTIL RESOLUTION OF THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS WITH THE OFT'.

 

I wonder if they are trying to scare me off and try to stop me doing my court bundle?

 

Bring it on! :rolleyes:

 

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Hi Scoobz...I got one of those too.....thought it was just me LOL...on the bottom of yours who does it say sent it?( on the back...enquires to ***) Mine is the person who i've been e-mailing trying to settle, i thought she'd sent it cos of the last e-mail i had sent her.

 

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Hi Jen

 

Mine is Anna Wright (who I've never heard of)? I've always had letters etc from Hina Thakrar so maybe she can't cope with all our claims and she's had to pass some work on?? Strange why they don't sign their letters?

 

The letter made me laugh as surely instead of just saying "we intend to apply for stay", why haven't they done so as they've had plenty of time! It's all stalling tactics but it isn't going to work!! :rolleyes:

 

This bundle job is hard work, I've got through 2 packs of paper and about 6 printer cartridges (not to mention the sore fingers) but it will all be worth it....

 

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I had the same letter but went ahead with sending my bundle and then today I got notification from the court that my hearing on the 12th would now be a hearing for Wragge to request a stay, attached was a copy of the papers Wragge had submitted to the courts to do this. So now I take it I have to go to court on the 12th to try to appeal to the judge not to grant a stay? If anyone can help I would be v grateful.

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Unfortunately this is not good news - this is the first one where I have heard the A&L request an individual stay - So this is new ground. I had a hearing to remove stay and was using the template on here plus the fact that A&L had no intention of defending as they had settled so many cases on the doorstep so to speak.

 

The Stay - Here is the application grounds for the removal of the stay

 

 

Here is what you use - plus there are lots of threads on here which advise you to add sections to make it as personal as possible. If you are a hardship case then you must be prepared to prove it.

 

Whether or not they will appear I have no idea - it could just be more tactics to try and frighten you off - but this is unknown territory.

 

Keep reading all new posts just to keep up with everything.

 

Jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

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Hi Scoobz, She must be the lady who is dealing with your case...has it got her e-mail on it? E-mail her & see if you can get an offer before court...maybe worth a try...then you'll have her response for court lol.

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Hi Jen

 

There is an email address so I might send her an email once Ive sent my bundle to them, then at least they know I mean business!!

 

Hi Wilsikon

 

I'm really surprised about them asking for a stay on your claim so close to the hearing date, it must be a new tactic?

 

I went to the case management conference at Leeds on 29th August and they didn't even turn up or request a stay so whether they will request one now god only knows!!

 

Like Jansus says just follow all the links regarding request for stay to be removed... this is all new to us all so fingers crossed judge will go in your favour!!

 

Good Luck and keep us posted

 

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Urgent Info Needed To Confirm A Bank Leak

 

see post 86 link - A&L are mentioned on lloyds bank new mobile phone alert system

 

jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

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Hi Jan

 

Very interesting read, thanks for that......

 

I'm a little concerned about this new 'stay' tactic that Wraggies are using at the moment! Surely the Judge in my case would not allow it after they didn't even turn up at court for CMC and they hadn't requested a stay prior to this? If I end up doing my court bundle and they grant a stay I will be fuming!! :Cry:

 

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I know this is such a rollercoaster - one minute you think we are on a winner - next you start to loose hope - do you think thats what they count on?

 

But as Kay posted they did the same for her - went to all the trouble of producing the request for stay and then settled outside the court room ???

 

Willam was the same - he was going in expecting a stay.

 

I think all we can do is carry on - the worse scenario is they get one stay and then the rest will follow - but a lot of people on here have dropped out and have not carried on Post OFt so I suppose the cases they have to deal with must be dwindling anyway.

 

Jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

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Thanks for your support Jan, it's sometimes difficult to stay positive when they keep springing new tactics on us! Hopefully like you say its just all hot air, trying to put us off, and they will settle either before or on the day...

 

Just finished all my copying and filed everything in three very large ring binders. Going to finish off my witness statement and make sure everything ties in. Because I amended my claim twice I've included all my paperwork plus docs from when I was transferred to Leeds Mercantile.

 

I've had a look at next day courier costs and it would be about £18 to get my bundle down to Wraggies by close of business on Tuesday 11/09 (suppose its cheaper then train or driving down myself)...

 

Catch you later...

 

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!!!!! OFT could drop test case !!!!!!!

 

 

here we go again

 

jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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Hi Jan

 

Thanks for that link.... I don't believe it, what on earth are the OFT up to now? If they drop this case then where would that leave all these people who have had claims stayed? Would the banks have to pay out? Will people be able to start new claims? CONFUSED!!

 

Anyway back to my fight against reliance & fester. I hand delivered my completed court bundle to Leeds Mercantile Court today and sent Wraggies copy via City Link for delivery tomoz (fingers crossed it gets there!!).... Received notification today that my court date will be the first available date after 10th October with an estimate of 2 hours. Watch this space!

 

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Hi scoobz

 

I know - have not read all the comments yet - but again how can they start a court case and then do this?

They have had long enough to sort it out and ok the charges may reduce - but it does not resolve the question of legalities or past charges - stinks a bit to me

 

there are about three threads about it.

 

Jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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hadyanth vs Lloyds TSB - Goodbye fingernails...

 

dont you think looyds seem to be getting more help - or am i imagining things?

 

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

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hi scoobz - really hope you dont need this but found it today

 

Bundle for stay hearings

 

 

just thought there may be something new in it today in case you need to argue on the day.

 

jan

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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Hi Scoobz Im sure your judge will see that A&L are just playing with the system and will not grant them a stay, after all the work you have put in you deserve the pleasure of being able to wipe the floor with them:wink:

Good luck!!! i would keep my fingers crossed for you but i didnt do me any good so better not:(

 

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Thanks Jan & Nicky I'll have a read of the link just in case..

 

It's all quiet at the moment not heard anything from court or Scraggie Wraggies but I'm sure they will be up to no good plotting and scheming as usual !

 

Keep you posted!

 

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