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    • I Submitted my defence last weekend,. In short, denying all allegations and requesting that the claim be struck out as claimant has no documents to support their claim and  have failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that any monies are owed to them by me and I considered it an abuse of process.   I have now received their directions questionnaire where they are championing 'Mediation over the telephone'   Should I agree to mediation once I receive the questionnaire from the court bearing in mind the dispute is about the existence of the alleged account and the lack of documents to prove it exists/ existed?   All I can say in mediation is that I've never heard of the account...... Do Lowell have to provide documents to the mediator?    Thanks in advance for any advice offered and sorry if the answers can be found elsewhere, but I'm not sure where to look 🤓   Spam 
    • Thank you all for the comments.. I hope to get a transcription of the recording, but I don't know if that's possible. I have asked the Court so will see what comes back. This is an overview and may not be exact wording..    I'll add the highlights from what I understood.. [both Judge & Mr D were well into the legal jargon].. some of the more technical discussion was lost on me..   Opening Statements.. VCS......Events from Incident to Court summons.. pretty much the WS opening Me........Night time, bad weather, bad visibility, children in danger walking on the road so "Signs" were not very clear VCS......Pictures on their WS were in daylight. Picture of the car we very blurry due to the rain. VCS agreed it was bad.. Me........Kangaroo Court - Every drop down on the appeal site is an admission of some sort of guilt. Needs to be an "Other" in case your situation doesn.t match Judge...Asked for clarification on POFA from VCS  VCS......Explained POFA in his terms and what he understood Judge...Was it a Parking event? VCS......No, it was a Stopping event Judge...Asked VCS who owns the land.. he didn't know so I told him Southend Council owns the freehold of the airport, but it has been leased since 1994 to London Southend Airport Company Limited Judge...Surprised VCS didn't know that Judge...Asked VCS if the Contract is relevant? VCS......Yes,  Judge...Still not clear VCS......Quoted VCS v Ward & Idle..  Me........That's not in your WS so is it admissible? Judge...That's not relevant in this case.. he had a quick look. Judge...Is the land relevant VCS......No real valid response, referred to VCS contract with the airport. Me........Why is Mr Wasi the paralegal not here as he may know? Judge...Section 46 refers to Parking/Waiting. Me........It all refers to Parking.. and I was not parked or waiting.. ## I expect Simple will see this as a loophole so may change it ##   Closing Statements: Me........VCS are aggressive in all their actions, as you can see by the Letters in their WS.. I also went through all the Arguments at a high level, such as Bye-Laws, Road Traffic Act [Public access etc.., the POFA discussed Parking, not Stopping, PO Box on the Signs, no address. VCS......Pretty much same as the Opening statement as far as I remember..    Judge...   Car was stopped for 30 seconds Multiple Signs The Driver "did" enter into a Contract as they entered the airport But.... Does POFA apply Needs distinction Stopped not Parked Only applies to Parking Judge referred VCS to Jopson v Homeguard 👍  Defendant wins the case & is not obliged to pay VCS any Fines   Judge to VCS... do you want to Appeal VCS.. Yes Sir................... but after 20 seconds he changed his mind to No Sir, no appeal at this time..  Judge to VCS... you have 3 weeks to appeal if you change your mind.   So.. VCS may appeal, but I had a feeling that he may have been tapped on the shoulder and advised to say No.. at the time..     ### As far as I can remember, this is how it went down ###.
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    • Hi @BankFodder
      Sorry for only updating you now, but after your guidance with submitting the claim it was pretty straight forward and I didn't want to unnecessarily waste your time. Especially with this guide you wrote here, so many thanks for that
      So I issued the claim on day 15 and they requested more time to respond.
      They took until the last day to respond and denied the claim, unsurprisingly saying my contract was with Packlink and not with them.
       
      I opted for mediation, and it played out very similarly to other people's experiences.
       
      In the first call I outlined my case, and I referred to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 as the reason to why I do in fact have a contract with them. 
       
      In the second call the mediator came back with an offer of the full amount of the phone and postage £146.93, but not the court costs. I said I was not willing to accept this and the mediator came across as a bit irritated that I would not accept this and said I should be flexible. I insisted that the law was on my side and I was willing to take them to court. The mediator went back to Hermes with what I said.
       
      In the third call the mediator said that they would offer the full amount. However, he said that Hermes still thought that I should have taken the case against Packlink instead, and that they would try to recover the court costs themselves from Packlink.
       
      To be fair to them, if Packlink wasn't based in Spain I would've made the claim against them instead. But since they are overseas and the law lets me take action against Hermes directly, it's the best way of trying to recover the money.
       
      So this is a great win. Thank you so much for your help and all of the resources available on this site. It has helped me so much especially as someone who does not know anything about making money claims.
       
      Many thanks, stay safe and have a good Christmas!
       
       
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ohoh, could you let me know what his name is please, you forgot to give me it, thanks

 

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Joan Humble MP.

got a reply in writing today, apparrently one of her aids wrote to the oft asking about the situation and all she advised me to do was to read the leaflett she recieved, and that was it. what are we paying them for?, i could have done that!!!!

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What a derisory response! I'd write straight back to her with that very point. I don't know who else saw it, but Peter Oborne's excellent documentary on C4 last night really brought home where our political representatives' priorities lie :roll:

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Joan Humble MP.

got a reply in writing today, apparrently one of her aids wrote to the oft asking about the situation and all she advised me to do was to read the leaflett she recieved, and that was it. what are we paying them for?, i could have done that!!!!

 

I think I should mark Joan Humble as a (green) Not Interested, & only sending you a leaflet; what good is that ?? I agree wholeheartedly, what are we paying them for ??

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It looks as though we are going to have to hope & pray that the majority of honest politicians outweigh the corrupt politicians, & that at the end of the day, they will be helping us challenge the banks.

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Hi olden, it would be great if there were. Unfortunately there seems to be an awful lot of MP's that are retiring just before the next election lol.

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Hi Macboy & Ja-de,

On return from my Hols I have received reply from Joan Humble MP.

 

Dear Mr Croze,

Further to previous correspondence, I enclose for your attention a copy of a letter I have received from the Financial Services Authority in response to enquiries I have made on your behalf.

 

I hope you will find this information helpful and of interest.

 

Blah Blah Blah.

 

Joan Humble.

 

attached is a 2 page letter from Dr. Thomas Huertas that he says he was asked by Hector Sants to send. also attached is a copy of the press release of 27 July.

 

do you want me to scan and let you have a copy of the reply? I am sure that I have read it somewhere else.

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Hi Stone

 

Welcome back and hope you had a great break! There has been another response from Joan Humble further up the thread (less than impressive I might add :roll:).

 

However, if there's anything different to add then by all means post it - that's what we've had this new thread set up for ;)

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Joan Humble MP.

got a reply in writing today, apparrently one of her aids wrote to the oft asking about the situation and all she advised me to do was to read the leaflett she recieved, and that was it. what are we paying them for?, i could have done that!!!!

 

 

Me too!!!!

It wasn't Clare Curtis Thomas was it??

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Hi Stone

 

Welcome back and hope you had a great break! There has been another response from Joan Humble further up the thread (less than impressive I might add :roll:).

 

However, if there's anything different to add then by all means post it - that's what we've had this new thread set up for ;)

 

 

I haven`t done this before so lets see if the old dog has learned a new trick.

 

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Halifax 2 N1 submitted 20/07/07 stayed 24/08/07 N244 Application filed 31/08/07 hearing set for 12/11/07 rescheduled for 29/01/2008. Application dismissed stay still in place.

Charity Group £200 compo for lost passport.

HM revenue & Customs; demand for WTC overpayment £632.12. Disputed, their error. Did not have to repay.

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Well done you, Stone :D Nicely geek-ed ;)

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  • Halifax Platinum Card 15 yr - Court Action Commenced - all 15 years statements recovered!
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Well done you, Stone :D Nicely geek-ed ;)

 

This response from Mrs. Humble comes after pestering her. Email her at Westminster, wrote to her at constituency office and all so Email to PA at Westminster. So maybe she just got pee`d off whith me!

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Halifax 2 N1 submitted 20/07/07 stayed 24/08/07 N244 Application filed 31/08/07 hearing set for 12/11/07 rescheduled for 29/01/2008. Application dismissed stay still in place.

Charity Group £200 compo for lost passport.

HM revenue & Customs; demand for WTC overpayment £632.12. Disputed, their error. Did not have to repay.

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Sounds to me like our Joan is anything but humble, stone :roll:

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  • Halifax Current a/c 20yr (closed) - in progress - all 20 years statements recovered!
  • Halifax Platinum Card 15 yr - Court Action Commenced - all 15 years statements recovered!
  • A&L Current a/c - You're next..

Write to your MP and

COMPLAIN about the ANTI-CONSUMER way in which the OFT Test Case is being handled!

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All

 

Please can you use the correct thread to notify when you've written to an MP?

 

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  • Halifax Platinum Card 15 yr - Court Action Commenced - all 15 years statements recovered!
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Welcome back stone, hope you had a nice holiday.

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Welcome back stone, hope you had a nice holiday.

 

Thanks Ja-de, yeah we had a great time chillin out, Things are moving on for me now, chack my thread. rearin to go again.

 

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NatWest Won £876.00

Halifax 2 N1 submitted 20/07/07 stayed 24/08/07 N244 Application filed 31/08/07 hearing set for 12/11/07 rescheduled for 29/01/2008. Application dismissed stay still in place.

Charity Group £200 compo for lost passport.

HM revenue & Customs; demand for WTC overpayment £632.12. Disputed, their error. Did not have to repay.

All opinions expressed are my own and have no legal standing and no connection to CAG

 

All errors/typos etc are not my fault the blame lies with the spelling gremlins

 

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Will do, & thank you for the click.

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stone, the letter is a standard template the FSA sent to all of us mine is exactly the same, they must think we are stupid!! They don't seem to have an inkling about this do they, what the hell is Joan Humble on about, any plans to clarify the legal position ? doesn't she know anything about whats being going on?? about the OFT case??

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