News From Cardiff!

[smutley]

yes, I found that letter on manicblonde thread so please dont give me the credit for it!! but, do we know what the reply was that she received from the MOR..???? that would be really useful for us all. We are trying to put together another letter to send into cardiff cc to add to our standard objection to the stay which most of us have done so any reasons you may have please let me know;)

[manicblonde]

Hi all,

 

Nothing much in the letter, I've left it at home, I'll post it on tonight for you all to read!

 

 

Is anyone going to the court tomorrow or do you think It will be a wasted journey?

 

Manic xx

[welshbaba]

Hi Manic,

Like you - unsure what to do.

Will mean dragging twins with me! What if anything should be taken tho if I get somthing sorted out?

Thanks

Sha

[freakyleaky]

Hi welsh. As there will be no judge there I think you only need take the application for removal of stay.

[welshbaba]

another thing i forgot to ask - on the n244 if i change it to A - hearing, how much time should i estimate? and re: q. 3 & 4 help pleeeeeeez

many thanks

Sha

[freakyleaky]

As you are a litigant in person and not a legal expert then you are not meant to know everything. I would estimate an hour!

OK what are Q's 3 and 4 ?

[welshbaba]

Freaky,

q3 - is this agreed by all parties? y or n - assuming this is no

q4 - give dates of any trial or fixed trial date - think i leave this blank but want to check

apologies if i have answered my own question, but want to check with someone a bit more clued up.

Thanks FL

[freakyleaky]

Question 3 is no!

I think you can leave the other blank as the original date has now been vacated.

As I say with you not being an expert the courts will allow some room for error!

[welshbaba]

Thanks for confirming that. now to ring court and get it changed

Sha

[manicblonde]

Hi Sha

 

I am not going tomorrow. I am going to wait until I get a reply from the District Judge about the N244 hearing. If there are enough of us and they do hear them then come along to see whats happening (you can be my court Buddy)!!

[manicblonde]

Hi Guys,

 

Any news on what happened today at The Cardiff County Court?

 

Manic x

[Mostyn1704]

Update from Cardiff: Am beginning to wonder if we haven't been infiltrated here, with the banks posing as hundreds of different claimants, as I met only 2 others today !!!! , and one of them was not down for a hearing just came to lend support - much appreciated Stadium. Where was everyone else??? Admittedly I arrived at 10.45,having been on line and printing all night, but SA and Welshbaba were there from 10 and met no-one else

Anyway info gleaned from Court Listings Manager as follows: 1.Blanket stays (her words) were issued by the judge on all the 700+ cases listed for today - that is ALL cases - both bank charges and credit cards cases So it looks like we are now fighting the courts as well as the banks as this was contrary to the direction given to judges by the Master of the Rolls 2. It will be 2 to 3 weeks before we get a reply to applications for the removal of stays - was assured that these applications WILL be considered on a case by case basis 3.There are currently 2,500 cases in Wales .... So there you have it. Thankfully the press didn't turn up - that would have been just too embarrassing

[parian]

turned up late about 13:00 my boss would only give me 1/2 day, some of the court staff were helpful others I felt were glad to get rid of me ( Have you guys been giving them a hard time)

I was informed it was a blanket stay and when I asked why? and that the MOR had insrructed that each case be taken on its merits, I got the, who are you attitude.

I think maybe the legal minds among us may be able to put together a letter of complaint to the MOR I think many of us need advice on how to make a formal complaint.

I was in two minds as to whether I should go I'm glad I did now.

 

Ian

[Mostyn1704]

Hey Ian Sorry to have missed you....next time hopefully. I agree, we def all should write with complaint to MOR, citing the wide discrepancies across the courty. I read somewhere that Liverpool is going ahead tomorrow, and there seem to be many others

[dee1954]

I was 1st in at 10 this morning and probably saw 10 - 15 others, seems as if others went throughout the day but nowhere near the 700 + cases quoted as down for today's original hearing!

I wonder how many either sent their applciations in by post or had their orders before Fri so took them in before today?

[kashie]

It's an absolute disgrace we need to do something about this before we are just chucked on the back burner with all the rest of the claims.

[Audreygreeneyes]

The Clerk to the Master of the Rolls

The Master of the Rolls' Private Office

Room E214

The Royal Courts of Justice

The Strand

WC2A 2LL

 

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

Claim Number XXXXXXXXX and Claim Number XXXXXXXXX at Cardiff County Court.

 

I am writing in the hope that you may be able to clarify for me the situation in relation to the stays issued on over 600 cases at the above court.

 

I am at a loss as to how this can happen so swiftly given that your directions were;

 

"Following a request from the OFT and the banks to put a stay on all Bank Charges cases (i.e. to halt them until the test case is finished); the Master of the Rolls decided not to issue an order staying all outstanding cases.

Instead he asked the Deputy Head of Civil Justice to write to all Designated Civil Judges, (which he has done) inviting them to consider staying outstanding claims on a case by case basis as appropriate.

Designated Civil Judges are the senior circuit judge responsible for a group of courts. (S)he may agree arrangements with the district judges sitting at each individual court. Therefore whether as case is stayed or not is a matter for the Judge in the individual case."

 

I am a litigant in person so please accept my sincere apologies for my lack of understanding in these matters if I am incorrect, but, Surely placing stays on over 600 cases in one court, listed for the same day (14th August) and at the same time (10.30am) would be classed as a blanket stay?

 

I have written to the Court Manager at Cardiff County court enclosing forms N244 in the hope that the stay will be lifted on my case and the claim allowed to continue as I have done everything in my power to try and settle these matters without the courts intervention, however, DG solicitors have yet to respond to any of my correspondence or even adhere to the courts general order by serving their written representations to the court or I within the specified time limits.

 

No doubt you will be receiving numerous letters from many of the claimants in these cases, and I am sure that they will all be stating very similar issues. One of the main issues from my point of view is the fact that by issuing these stays in the banks favour, the Status quo of these cases are no longer maintained as the stay prevents the claimants pursuit of its legitimate remedy without placing any restrictions on the banks activities whatsoever and actually seems supportive of the banks litigation strategy which has been a complete waste of Court time and resources to date.

 

If you do require any further information from me in relation to these matters please do not hesitate to contact me.

[Audreygreeneyes]

there you go. send that compliant in to the addy ont he letter........... and also requat the stay be removed use N244 and ask for a hearing..............

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/108430-stays-info-guidance.html

[kashie]

Send application to lift stay last Monday as soon as I recieved the letter, but I have since recieved other stays for other claims - one which includes a credit card claim for Citi Cards, no explaination as to why this has happened!

[Audreygreeneyes]

just apply ot have them all removed and ask for a hearing on each case..........

[manicblonde]

Hi Auburn.

 

If anybody wants to see the reply to the letter you posted above its on my thread. Not a very interesting read I am afraid!

 

I could not get the time off to go to the Cout yesterday as I dont get paid if I dont work and need to feed the kiddies somehow!

 

Thanks for the feedback though guys. Lets hope the courts have the sense hear our cases and lift the stays!!

[stadium_arcadium]

Update from Cardiff: Am beginning to wonder if we haven't been infiltrated here, with the banks posing as hundreds of different claimants, as I met only 2 others today !!!! , and one of them was not down for a hearing just came to lend support - much appreciated Stadium. Where was everyone else??? Admittedly I arrived at 10.45,having been on line and printing all night, but SA and Welshbaba were there from 10 and met no-one else

Anyway info gleaned from Court Listings Manager as follows: 1.Blanket stays (her words) were issued by the judge on all the 700+ cases listed for today - that is ALL cases - both bank charges and credit cards cases So it looks like we are now fighting the courts as well as the banks as this was contrary to the direction given to judges by the Master of the Rolls 2. It will be 2 to 3 weeks before we get a reply to applications for the removal of stays - was assured that these applications WILL be considered on a case by case basis 3.There are currently 2,500 cases in Wales .... So there you have it. Thankfully the press didn't turn up - that would have been just too embarrassing

 

No worries M....was good to meet up with you and Sha again:D

 

Can't believe we all missed each other...I was stood outside from 10, in a white coat, probably looking shifty;) anyone spot me? LOL.

 

Good luck to you all with the MoR !

[welshbaba]

SA - you did look a bit dodgy leaning against the wall!!!! lol. Thanks for the company tho......

nice to see you again too Mostyn, coffee sounded great but as u saw the twins got a bit twitchy!

Hopefully a lot more of us can meet again soon:)

Sha

[stadium_arcadium]

Yes, it would be good to meet up again:) I think your twins were great, considering all the hanging about we did outside (and inside) the court:D

Don't forget to send me the info I need regarding your important happening in a couple of weeks time..... (Good luck with that, BTW)

[freakyleaky]

Just posting another useful thread

 

Find out here if your local court is staying claims