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Last year using paypal i got stung for an item i never received on ebay, done the whole resolution thing and received £5.67 of a total of £12.67 back.Have just been stung again this time for the total amount below,now paypal ebay had offered there £500 paypal protection on auctions surely there is more i can do on this,quite sure i,m not the only one in the world this has happened to...Help....email below

 

Dear john ,

 

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer

Complaint described below.

 

We have decided in your favour, however, we were unable to recover any

funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement,

recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

 

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in

question if they become available in the seller's account in the future,

and will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may

include issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the

account. Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors, including

member complaints, to determine when to take action. Due to privacy laws,

we cannot discuss the details of any action taken. We hope you understand

our policy and that it reassures you that you are safe using PayPal.

 

 

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Transaction Details

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Transaction Date: 2 Jun 2007

Transaction Amount: -$320.08 USD

Your Transaction ID: xxxxx

Seller’s Transaction ID: xxxxx

Case Number: xxxx

Seller's Name: xx

Seller's Email: xxxx

 

 

 

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What to Do Next

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This case is now closed. No further action is required by you at this time.

 

 

yeh really re-assures me to use them

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hi

Last year using paypal i got stung for an item i never received on ebay, done the whole resolution thing and received £5.67 of a total of £12.67 back.Have just been stung again this time for the total amount below,now paypal ebay had offered there £500 paypal protection on auctions surely there is more i can do on this,quite sure i,m not the only one in the world this has happened to...Help....email below

 

Dear john ,

 

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer

Complaint described below.

 

We have decided in your favour, however, we were unable to recover any

funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement,

recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

 

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in

question if they become available in the seller's account in the future,

and will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may

include issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the

account. Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors, including

member complaints, to determine when to take action. Due to privacy laws,

we cannot discuss the details of any action taken. We hope you understand

our policy and that it reassures you that you are safe using PayPal.

 

 

-----------------------------------

Transaction Details

-----------------------------------

 

Transaction Date: 2 Jun 2007

Transaction Amount: -$320.08 USD

Your Transaction ID: xxxxx

Seller’s Transaction ID: xxxxx

Case Number: xxxx

Seller's Name: xx

Seller's Email: xxxx

 

 

 

-----------------------------------

What to Do Next

-----------------------------------

 

This case is now closed. No further action is required by you at this time.

 

 

yeh really re-assures me to use them

 

Do you still have the auction number to check the staus of the sellers guarantee status applied by Paypal?

PUTTING IT IN WRITING & KEEPING COPIES IS A MUST FOR SUCCESS

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There are unfortunately lots of get-out clauses for Paypal in relation to their 'Buyer Protection'.

 

Did you pay with a credit card?

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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hi

still have all the auction ID,s as they were for several items and paid through my maestro/switch card through paypal. to be honest i am willing to go all the way with this, not so much for the money although i want this back but more a case of sick of the big boys walking all over us.......

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I take it they were purchased from outside of the UK?

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hi barracad

yes bought from the states i had done dealings before with seller with no problems then noticed seller was no longer registered with ebay a month into my purchase so to be on safe side i thought and with the paypal protection decided on that route as got no reply to my emails from seller

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I take it your transactions were before june?

 

I have done a charge back before on my switch card. If i were you I 'd go to my bank and demand a chargeback to be completed for the full amount.

 

Can you provide the item number?

 

 

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I really should read posts more carefully. It was on the 2nd of June!

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Hiya,

 

I just went into my local branch and asked them fro a chargeback as they good have never been received and I caouln't get any contact from the seller. I had no problems but I do believe others have so I think all you can do is ask. If the teller says no then ask to speak to the manager.

 

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If you chargeback then be warned Paypal will put your account into minus balance and set a DCA on to you ...

 

PayPalSucks.com is where you will learn about the PayPal Class Action Lawsuit, Abuse, Fraud & evil behind the PayPal system! makes for interesting reading, they really are a dodgy bunch, I was stung for over £350 from them.

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