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By lookinforinfo · Posted
The Court s pretty informal. The Judge [who you call "Judge" rather than Sir or madam] will not be wearing a wig and gown just a suit and it is advisable that you do the same and a tie. Other than that the Judge will do most of the talking .If they haven't received a WS from the scrotes either the case will probably be thrown out straight away. Usually the Judge will ask their lawyer a number of questions then ask for your take on things and then the case will be decided. UKPC 0 Mystic Bertie 5. Then ask for your expenses time off work [if not being paid by your company while in Court, travelling and parking costs and occasionally they will allow something like 5 hours research at I think £8 per hour. Later celebrate and post us the result and how much fun it was. You will wonder why you worried about it so much. Next time will be much easier.🙂 -
i asked for their witness statement? -
its not a criminal case... county court. dx -
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By mystic_bertie · Posted
hi JK they dont have a website Cheltenham Magistrates Court Contact Details, Email, Cases, Daily & Archive Hearing List Records WWW.THELAWPAGES.COM Cheltenham Magistrates Court Contact Details (address, email, telephone, fax, DX and map of location), Court Cases (Cheltenham Magistrates Court... -
do you have their WS?
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